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    But Russia is using massive artillery barrages as their main method of advancing, destroying everything with inaccurate but high volume of artillery shells.

    That to me seems very much like "destroying the land" (and everything on it and in it). Going Scorched Earth after they realized early on that they won't sweep the country and be greeted as liberators, runs completely counter to the propaganda that Putin is trying to spread in Russia. Remember that the objective is to liberate Ukraine and it's people from a Neo-Nazies regime. This being done with actual neo-nazi mercenaries amongst other things.

    There is no logic other than Putins own long-standing plan to correct what he sees as the biggest tragedy in recent history, namely the fall and dissolution of the Soviet empire. That's what he wants his legacy to be, and is betting everything on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delores Mulva View Post
    Correct.

    One of Russia's key points at home, based on conversations my Russian friend has with her parents back home, is that Ukraine isn't a "real" country but rather one manufactured by the West to weaken the Rus' people. The extreme nationalists in Russia regard the reunification of Kievan Rus' as a key goal of this invasion, and that the land being taken is rightfully Russian. I feel like it might be part of why the Russians are OK with killing and starving Ukrainians with their bombardment campaign, but are avoiding bombing the country flat. The people can be written off as enemies, but the land itself is highly symbolic and cannot be destroyed or defaced. My friend left the Soviet Union in her mid-teens some thirty years ago, and she still gasps in shock and gets angry when she sees extensive bombing damage in any of the hero cities in Ukraine.
    Which is hilarious as Kyiv (and Ukraine) is older than Moscow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninetoes View Post
    Which is hilarious as Kyiv (and Ukraine) is older than Moscow
    That's actually kinda the point, from the Russian point of view: The birthplace of Russian culture should be part of Mother Russia.

    Meanwhile, I add this tidbit for the purely sophomoric reason that the phrase "sausage tycoon" makes me giggle:

    Russian sausage tycoon Pavel Antov dies in Indian hotel fall

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    Reports in Russian media said Mr Antov, 65, had fallen from a window at the hotel in the city of Rayagada on Sunday.
    The windows claim another victim!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delores Mulva View Post
    The windows claim another victim!
    These Russian critics of the Ukrainian special operation do get remarkably careless when they get near balconies and windows. They should stay on the ground floor.

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    Re: So, USA's setting up another false flag war, but one that will bite us all in the

    Quote Originally Posted by PPatty View Post
    These Russian critics of the Ukrainian special operation do get remarkably careless when they get near balconies and windows. They should stay on the ground floor.
    Oopsie

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    The Russian Orthodox advent calendar is pretty neat this year. Each day you open a window and an oligarch falls out.
    There are other worlds than these.

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    Re: So, USA's setting up another false flag war, but one that will bite us all in the

    Quote Originally Posted by Silke View Post
    The Russian Orthodox advent calendar is pretty neat this year. Each day you open a window and an oligarch falls out.
    That is some high quality dark humor right there.
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    Re: So, USA's setting up another false flag war, but one that will bite us all in the

    Quote Originally Posted by Milton Finkelstein View Post
    But Russia is using massive artillery barrages as their main method of advancing, destroying everything with inaccurate but high volume of artillery shells.

    That to me seems very much like "destroying the land" (and everything on it and in it). Going Scorched Earth after they realized early on that they won't sweep the country and be greeted as liberators, runs completely counter to the propaganda that Putin is trying to spread in Russia. Remember that the objective is to liberate Ukraine and it's people from a Neo-Nazies regime. This being done with actual neo-nazi mercenaries amongst other things.

    There is no logic other than Putins own long-standing plan to correct what he sees as the biggest tragedy in recent history, namely the fall and dissolution of the Soviet empire. That's what he wants his legacy to be, and is betting everything on it.

    yeah....right, really. Suuuuuuuuuuure! They are wasting lots of useful shells missing everything!
    Go ask the Wehrmacht of 1941-45 how "bad" Russian artillery was.
    Today it's far far more horribly effective

    You do know Ursula Von Der Leyen accidentally let slip the real Ukrainian military death toll is over 100,000 hm?
    Probably about 200,000 now, nearly all their professional military is long gone, they are driving poor sods in civilian trucks and cars to the front lines and even in battle...and have for months forcing their men into insane attacks over open ground with little armour or artillery support.
    Since Stage 2 the Russians SOP is simply to pull the Ukrainians out of defences/towns by withdrawing and pulling the enemy into prepared defences, and blow them to bits in the open
    Zelensky keeps ordering his generals to do that (and they are pissed at him for it but hey America rules things in reality) and to shoot folk who retreat (those Nazis you all deny are doing that and are actually now at times being shot at by their own side who're fed up with the sick MTFers)


    Oh and Russia has run out of ammo and missiles...as said every week according to Western propaganda.
    Like the Russians are supposed to be getting artillery shells off North Korea, but the reality is, it's AMERICA who went begging to South Korea for 155mm shells, because the West sold off 80% of it's manufacturing capacity to enrich the bankers and CEOs

    HINT: Western propaganda is largely PROJECTION, it's what the West does/is/plans etc projected onto the opponent

    This isn't WW2 folks, where US had superb engineers and vast factory capacity
    The piece of shit M-777 shows the crazy reality the US lives in now
    Vastly over priced, small (for what's needed) numbers of very unreliable crap, needing huge logistics train, to keep corporate profits maximized and it's incapable of prolonged use.
    Western military is geared for colonial warfare against backward, easy opponents, not all out war vs peer opponents.

    By the way, other week it emerged the German army's self propelled howitzer system is so bad only 30% of them are viable!

    Also, Russians have very short supply lines and every resources they need for war production inside their own country, be it tungsten to microchips (you do NOT need the latest 6nm chips for drones, missiles etc and look who invented half the lithography systems for chip making).

    oh and if any of you had the slightest intellectual and moral honesty, you'd have noted the many videos/pics from Ukraine, some from Western news outlets which got censored but some of it got out, of Ukrainian armoured vehicles of "Kraken" and such, not merely painted with the Nazi-era "Iron Cross", but with the Reich's Eagle, Black Sun and even the crossed grenades of SS Dirlewanger



    Sigh I know I'm whistling in the wind, but when, like after Afghanistan, Iraq TWICE, etc the shit comes out...you lot ain't getting way with pretending you didn't support yet another "Western genocide for profit".
    except this one has actually started World War Three and we best hope it doesn't go "shrooms", cause there may not be anyone left to put us away in lead coffins

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    Re: So, USA's setting up another false flag war, but one that will bite us all in the

    Quote Originally Posted by Silke View Post
    The Russian Orthodox advent calendar is pretty neat this year. Each day you open a window and an oligarch falls out.
    The Church the Ukrainians have banned, taken over buildings etc, hm?
    just like they banned all opposition parties, took over the media etc
    Zelensky and Co are not "democratists", they are just like South Vietnam and many other tin pot murderous regimes the US used through the years.

    it'll be a toss up who gets Zelensky:
    CIA/Mi6 to cover their tracks and make a martyr,
    the Nazis for him and his minions being Jewish and losing the war,
    or ordinary Ukrainians when they realize most of the young male population has been sent to their deaths by Mr Z and the West.
    Oh and Mossad, many of whom are fucking furious at Israel being dragged into WW3, and the USA using Nazis whom Mossad bitterly complained about for years


    and hope you all enjoy the sabotage and assassination cycles CIA/Mi6 started, as what goes around, comes around

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    Re: So, USA's setting up another false flag war, but one that will bite us all in the

    Quote Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E View Post
    yeah....right, really. [...]
    You have become what you have previously raged against - A propagandist for war criminals, dictators and autocrats.

    You should turn off the internet and seek mental help.

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    Re: So, USA's setting up another false flag war, but one that will bite us all in the

    Quote Originally Posted by Silke View Post
    The Russian Orthodox advent calendar is pretty neat this year. Each day you open a window and an oligarch falls out.
    damn I guess that has to replace the Nakatomi Christmas Calendar, You only get one window drop on that one.
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    Re: So, USA's setting up another false flag war, but one that will bite us all in the

    Quote Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E View Post
    The Church the Ukrainians have banned, taken over buildings etc, hm?
    just like they banned all opposition parties, took over the media etc
    Zelensky and Co are not "democratists", they are just like South Vietnam and many other tin pot murderous regimes the US used through the years.

    it'll be a toss up who gets Zelensky:
    CIA/Mi6 to cover their tracks and make a martyr,
    the Nazis for him and his minions being Jewish and losing the war,
    or ordinary Ukrainians when they realize most of the young male population has been sent to their deaths by Mr Z and the West.
    Oh and Mossad, many of whom are fucking furious at Israel being dragged into WW3, and the USA using Nazis whom Mossad bitterly complained about for years


    and hope you all enjoy the sabotage and assassination cycles CIA/Mi6 started, as what goes around, comes around
    Fuck off you apologist for monsters and war criminals - SLAVA UKRAINI

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    Re: So, USA's setting up another false flag war, but one that will bite us all in the

    Boebert(the idiot) says the stalemate in the house is okay because it means the US is sending less money to Ukraine.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...56336.html?amp

    I bet shes somehow a Putin agent.
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    Re: So, USA's setting up another false flag war, but one that will bite us all in the

    Too dumb to be an agent. Patsy at best.

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    Re: So, USA's setting up another false flag war, but one that will bite us all in the

    Quote Originally Posted by Wool View Post
    Too dumb to be an agent. Patsy at best.
    I go with she's simply an idiot and moron all wrapped up in one.
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    Re: So, USA's setting up another false flag war, but one that will bite us all in the

    What...

    ...what's happening here?

    Silverblade, are you arguing that Putin is in the right here?
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    Re: So, USA's setting up another false flag war, but one that will bite us all in the

    Quote Originally Posted by Merrick ap'Milandra View Post
    What...

    ...what's happening here?

    Silverblade, are you arguing that Putin is in the right here?
    Yes. Yes he is.
    There are other worlds than these.

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