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    Quote Originally Posted by Apallohadas View Post
    http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/1...hile-att-lags/

    I have a hard time trusting a survey that gave Sprint any mark above "complete suck".
    When you roam on Sprint you are on verizon's network.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vdou View Post
    When you roam on Sprint you are on verizon's network.
    Does that explain Sprints amazingly poor performance here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo View Post
    Remember, a lot of the problems with AT&T's iPhone coverage is that iPhone users use a LOT more data bandwidth than anyone else. I imagine we will see Verizon having similar problems if the Droid becomes huge, as will any other carrier that gets the iPhone. (I think it's likely this is the year they get a second carrier, in summer 2010.)
    This guy says it's because of the jacked up way their have misconfigured their core network...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apallohadas View Post
    Does that explain Sprints amazingly poor performance here?
    They may have changed, but I believe Sprint only operated on one of the two available digital bands. IIRC it was 900MHz and 1.8GHz (and the old analog). Verizon ran both the digitals and charged out the wazoo for analog. Sprint only ran on the 1.9, allowing more bandwidth at a shorter range.

    So yes, Verizon and Sprint shared networks (digital roam) but Sprint could only use part of Verizon's.

    It would not surprise me at all it there's another segment now open for cellular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eremius View Post
    This guy says it's because of the jacked up way their have misconfigured their core network...
    I haven't finished reading it yet, but wwwwwwwwoooooooooooowwwwwww, that guy is an idiot.

    I'll agree with the basic premise that AT&T's IP network is a piece of shit. His methodology is wrong. I have 200ms round trip to Seattle. I have about 100ms to Seattle from my desktop (this is mostly due to living so far away from Seattle). My cell IP has an address translation, and the last part of the network I have access to view is directly connected to the ASA thats controlling that.

    Spoiler for cisco sho int:
    >sho int Vlan3001
    Vlan3001 is up, line protocol is up
    Hardware is EtherSVI, address is 0016.xxxx.xxxx (bia 0016.yyyy.yyyy)
    Description: UrbanWireless to ASA-5520s
    Internet address is www.www.www.www/28
    MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1000000 Kbit, DLY 10 usec,
    reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
    Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
    Keepalive not supported
    ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
    Last input 00:08:54, output 00:04:52, output hang never
    Last clearing of "show interface" counters never
    Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
    Queueing strategy: fifo
    Output queue: 0/40 (size/max)
    5 minute input rate 282000 bits/sec, 177 packets/sec
    5 minute output rate 1431000 bits/sec, 199 packets/sec
    L2 Switched: ucast: 101624 pkt, 8379854 bytes - mcast: 8 pkt, 512 bytes
    L3 in Switched: ucast: 20391058 pkt, 4059133966 bytes - mcast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes mcast
    L3 out Switched: ucast: 25870039 pkt, 22296482124 bytes mcast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes
    20392306 packets input, 4059387584 bytes, 0 no buffer
    Received 8 broadcasts (0 IP multicasts)
    0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
    0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored
    25872191 packets output, 22295535827 bytes, 0 underruns
    0 output errors, 0 interface resets
    0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out




    My phone's kernel isn't compiled with traceroute enabled. I suppose I could figure out how to add it, but right now I'm just trying to collect some stats.

    0% packetloss, rtt min/avg/max/mdev 130.402/184.669/1355.316/139.684 ms (over 100 pings)

    I have 2 of 4 bars, and I'm on EDGE right now. Since I'm leaving the cell network less than 4 miles from home, I actually think thats kind of terrible, but I give it some leeway since I'm on 2G which uses some hacks to even remotely get IP working.



    When I tested this on AT&T, I was seeing an average latency of approximately 1500ms, with spikes every 30-40 seconds running around 4000ms.

    That should NEVER happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaes View Post
    The battery life on this phone is diarrhea. It also stops charging once it's full so when I plug it in while I sleep like I normally do for my old phones, it probably finishes charging within 4 hours of me sleeping and then starts wasting the battery so when I wake up I'm already at 75% again.
    ok, i've had the phone for 2 days now. last night i downloaded an app to force clock mode (dont have the dock yet), so the backlight was on all night, on the high setting, not night time setting. and when i woke the battery was at 100% both days.

    i think there might be something wrong with your phone.

    i will say though that the battery does drain fairly fast. with just light usage yesterday it was pretty much dead by the time i plugged it in to charge at bedtime. i might get a second battery for it. which is something the iphone wouldnt let me do either.

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    http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dro...ttery-yet.html

    Some people on here talking about adjustments they made to the phone to increase battery life.

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    BTW there seems to be an issue with the battery cover. Mine falls off all the time, but I submitted a replacement request on moto's site and they'll be shipping one out.

    If you have a case it's not that much of an issue.
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    after giving the battery a few days to adjust. letting it drain fully once to sort of calibrate it i guess. it's performing much better. today, 12 hours since i took it off the charger, the screen on for 2h 6m (most of that time playing jeweled or sudoku to keep the screen running) i still have 30% left. that's pretty acceptable to me and about on par with what my iphone could do, if not a little better.

    keeping bluetooth on all day only took up 4%, meebo (aim, icq, msn) doesnt even register for some reason.

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    "Jeweled?" You bought a knock-off of a $2 game?

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    it was free!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo View Post
    "Jeweled?" You bought a knock-off of a $2 game?
    Most of the stuff on android is free for basic functionality. When you pay for something you get more/better functionality.
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    Popcap is pretty clearly a company that deserves your $2, though, since they make consistently awesome stuff that never fails to give full value for the dollar.

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    Popcap are awesome. Bought all of their iphone games to keep me awake for middle of the night baby feeding (falling asleep and dropping said baby is bad).

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    Re: Motorola Droid

    Quote Originally Posted by Voca View Post
    Popcap are awesome. Bought all of their iphone games to keep me awake for middle of the night baby feeding (falling asleep and dropping said baby is bad).
    She can take, comes from tough stock.

    OP: Been having problems with Sprint again (Shocking I know!) So I'm looking at a Droid (Problem being Verizon doesnt have a family plan that includes a Droid) or maybe T-Mobile and a G1 or MyTouch

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    Re: Motorola Droid

    A fix for the loose battery cover problem:

    http://lifehacker.com/5420606/fix-a-...-on-your-droid

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    Re: Motorola Droid

    Quote Originally Posted by Ninetoes View Post
    She can take, comes from tough stock.

    OP: Been having problems with Sprint again (Shocking I know!) So I'm looking at a Droid (Problem being Verizon doesnt have a family plan that includes a Droid) or maybe T-Mobile and a G1 or MyTouch
    Consider the HTC Droid Eris on Verizon. It's not as nice a phone as the Moto Droid, but it would probably give you 80% of the functionality in a slick little package (and a good cost savings). I actually preferred the physical form of the Eris over the Droid when I looked at them at Best Buy.

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    Surreal that anyone would think an evil Greek goddess would make a good name for a cell phone. I guess the HTC Droid Lucifer was already taken.

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    i did a search on android market and while i found many bewejeled knockoffs, none were made by popcap. so they apparently dont support android yet anyway!

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    Re: Motorola Droid

    Quote Originally Posted by Ninetoes View Post
    She can take, comes from tough stock.

    OP: Been having problems with Sprint again (Shocking I know!) So I'm looking at a Droid (Problem being Verizon doesnt have a family plan that includes a Droid) or maybe T-Mobile and a G1 or MyTouch
    Strange... I just got a moto droid and was able to keep my fam plan setting, just needed to add in a 30 buck internet option

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