You are 100% correct on this! To be honest I never knew that character was based on a real person, but that makes it an even more cool movie.Quote:
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You are 100% correct on this! To be honest I never knew that character was based on a real person, but that makes it an even more cool movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by PPatty
Irrfan Khan, Bollywood star that was also in many Western hits (Jurassic World, The Amazing Spider-Man, Life of Pi, Slumdog Millionaire), 53, infection following endocrine cancer:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-52468343
Bummer, he was great in Life of Pi :(
Damnit. He was one of those actors we were supposed to see until his sunset years on the screen. I hope it wasn't painful.
Gayle Halderman, lead designer on one of the most iconic cars ever, the Ford Mustang.
https://www.newser.com/story/290344/...paign=20200501
Nope, just another of many false rumors over the decades about the Kim family.Quote:
Originally Posted by Khieran
https://www.vox.com/2020/5/1/2124468...-un-alive-dead
Until North Korea officially says he's dead, he's not dead. It's the one honest thing about that regime.
Wow, you're rightQuote:
Originally Posted by PPatty
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My family and I started watching a show on Netflix called Kim's convenience. I've been waiting for the internet to spin a meme out of that.
Korean convenience store owners.
Ah, excellent. Canada's inevitable takeover of American culture has claimed another victim!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinthalas Tigris
Mwahahaha
Kim's Convenience, Schitt's Creek, Letterkenny - the Canadian shock troops in the culture wars.
I think the best offering is Letterkenny, but like all comedies, I get a little tired of it after about 2 or 3 episodes at a time, max.
The winningest coach in NFL history has died:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...=mmx&PC=EMMX20
As a Bills fan, I hated his Dolphins teams. But when it came to getting the most out of his talent, he was better than almost any other coach before or since.
I came here to post about Shula as well. On of the great coaches in NFL history
Still the only one who can claim an undefeated season, and not sure that will ever happen again with how the NFL has changed and (soon to be) 3 more games than they had just in the regular season. He was definitely one of the elite coaches of all time.
The undefeated season was a fluke. The most impressive thing in Shula's very impressive resume is this: In 33 seasons as a pro coach, he only had a losing record twice. That is a remarkably consistent level of excellence.Quote:
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Even if it was a fluke, he still is the only NFL coach whose name it can be associated with. As for only two losing records, I do agree that that is more impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by PPatty
Roy Horn, of Siegfried & Roy fame, succumbs to covid-19:
https://www.tmz.com/2020/05/08/roy-h...9-coronavirus/
Little Richard, dead at 87
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...aJMuvqGWe6PJwg
Jerry Stiller (George's dad on Seinfeld), 92, natural causes:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/11/us/je...ses/index.html
Serenity now. [emoji3525]Quote:
Originally Posted by Delores Mulva
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Ben Stiller's dad.Quote:
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Fred Willard has gone:
https://www.tmz.com/2020/05/16/actor...d-dies-age-86/
He's one of those classic "That guy" actors -- he's been in a zillion things, but rarely the star. A few examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1q-zeqh3AI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L8vaffy5w8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXl7506g8hY
Wow. [emoji45] RIP Fred
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He dies on Modern Family, then dies in real life. TMZ was kind to him in not bringing up the public masturbation thing from eight years ago.
Phyllis George, dead at 70
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/16/media...ath/index.html
Ken Osmond (AKA Eddie Haskell), dead at 76
https://www.tmz.com/2020/05/18/ken-o...ell-dead-dies/
The Office of the President of the United States
just saying....yeesh
Ray Manzarek, keyboardist for The Doors, dead at 74
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/m...-at-74-189116/
Had a key role in their most famous song, among other things:Quote:
Originally Posted by Khieran
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGQwAA3I-eQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAgwREgO6Tw
If this guy had Jordan instead of Malone, MJ might have more than six rings:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...an-dies-age-78
RIP, Admiral Paris:
https://nypost.com/2020/05/26/richar...ies-at-age-87/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0Qtnj8rbdU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vji7w6ldxto
That may or may not be his role of the most interest to folks here, but he's probably more widely known for other stuff, such as Seinfeld.
The Voyager cast just did an online reunion. I know he wouldn't have been invited since he wasn't main cast, but still, sad.
I can't say I'm a huge fan of this guy's work, but I acknowledge his importance in comic-book history, with key roles in the evolution of the Green Lantern, Green Arrow and Batman franchises:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/th...il/ar-BB15rBLh
Ian Holm, aka Bilbo from LotR, 88, complications from Parkinson's:
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-13960349
sucks, damn it :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Delores Mulva
as said before, he's the kind of actor I love, a "real Human Being", not a plastic droid
sigh oh well he'll be forever remembered for the LOTR and Hobbit films :) but he did many other damn good things, too
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He made a very good plastic droid.
88 years and with complications of a debilitating disease. Impressive. Bravo, Sr. Holm.
Joel Schumacher, 80, cancer:
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/j...or-1234644961/
In related news (since he directed Batman), Michael Keaton will apparently be playing Batman in the Flashpoint movie.
Carl Reiner, 98, natural causes.
He lived a full life. Good for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delores Mulva
Poor Mel, though. He was known to still drive over and visit him every single day.
Carl Reiner was a legend, and a genius. He did so many things and from all I've read was a generous person as well.
Charlie Daniels at 83 or a stroke. https://www.newser.com/story/293206/...paign=20200706
If you've never listened to his song Uneasy Rider you should, it's hilarious and shows that back in his youth he was a hippie.
Ennio Morricone
sigh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu5PO3PUmDs
That's one of those people that, had you asked me, I would have sworn he was already dead.
Mary Kay Letourneau, 58, stage four colon cancer:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/07/us/ma...ath/index.html
Boing Boing has a nice list of all the media outlets that are calling what she did a "sexual relationship" instead of what it was, rape:
https://boingboing.net/2020/07/08/ch...-letourne.html
Are the two always mutually exclusive?Quote:
Originally Posted by Delores Mulva
Yes. A sexual relationship has consent; rape does not.
Offering this as a Possible incoming: Naya Rivera (Glee) missing after disappearing while boating with her son.
Relationships of any sort don't have to be two-way streets to be relationships.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delores Mulva
Sexual relationships do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ppatty
Jiminy Frickin' Crickets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mileron
Maaan. That show is the Poltergeist of our time.
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I really liked Santana/Naya Rivera. That is truly sad. I can only imagine what it was like for her son to wonder where she was for that whole time. Not to mention; god. How the hell. How the crap do you die like that? I mean, I guess it happens all the time. but... yuck.
No, they don't. Abusive sexual relationships are still sexual relationships, albeit not good ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delores Mulva
Yes, they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by PPatty
Rivers and lakes are dangerous
folk really should NOT mess around on them without other adults to help in case of emergencies
and absolutely NEVER with just one adult their little kids and absolutely never in certain weather conditions or some bodies of water
please please don't' do that folks
You may think that's extreme, but then you wouldn't have seen how damn dangerous they can suddenly be :/
there are areas on rivers and lochs/tarns here that absolutely bloody well WILL kill your ass dead no matter how good a swimmer you are, etc
it's not about how big, or fierce etc per se, people completely misjudge things, and you can have squalls hammer down from the sky and over turn a boat
if they haven't found the boat?? maybe, hopefully they are on an island, ashore some place taking shelter, and all is well
sigh, we can hope and pray until bodies are found
we've had a few folk, including kids drown in the waters her over the SUmmer, as so many folk never treat the waters with the bloody seriousness they deserve, they are NOT a "beach"
apologies for vehemence, but losing your life, worse, a kid's....
example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ILpLoENZLE
They have. Her four year old was asleep in the boat, with his life jacket on, aground on the north side of the lake. Her life jacket, and her purse, were still in the boat, no sign of her. They are treating it as a body recovery and not a missing persons issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade
By any rational definition, they don't. Two people engaging in sex over a period of time are in a sexual relationship. The circumstances may dictate how that sexual relationship can be characterized, but the phrase itself is just a neutral term, like "killing" (as opposed to "murder").Quote:
Originally Posted by Delores Mulva
Yes, they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by PPatty
(Note: this is a response to the absolute pedantry of "bUt RaPe iS a SeXuAl ReLaTioNsHiP, tHe mEdiA iS dOinG nOThINg wRoNG". And it's all you're getting in response to any assertion that supports that asinine position.)
Apparently they both were swimming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delores Mulva
I'm thinking one of two things happened:
1) He was asleep. Kids don't fall asleep unless they're bloody tired when their mom isn't around. They swam too far out, the heat (it was baaaaddd yesterday) tired them out way mroe than they thought, and in getting him into the boat, she didn't have enough energy to get back in herself and succumbed to the elements.
2) He got in the boat, tired, who knows, and kicked her as she pushed him in and knocked her out, unknowing.
This is sad, indeed.
Same sort of accident happened to one of RFK's granddaughters back in April. I had read the child was playing with a ball which they were attempting to retrieve from out in the water and were blown out and unable to get to shore.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...y-family-death
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Like begets like: They don't. And news outlets that describe it as a sexual relationship are not wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delores Mulva
Incidentally, "rape" is not a relationship, it's a singular action.
Re: Naya Rivera:
This was an interesting line to read. Who removed it? THis line is way too fucking ambiguous for a damn news agency to leave this shit on a cliffhanger. WHy the fuck would you put this line in and not explain anything more?Quote:
The vehicle Rivera and her son traveled to Lake Piru in was removed from the scene, though the boat remained in the water.
https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020...-old-son-safe/
You can get a cramp in the water and thus drown in seconds
again, sorry but it's STUPID to ever go out/into the water without other people there to keep an eye on you, sigh :(
folk are not properly educated on these dangers, JUST DON'T BLOODY DO IT!
had a cousin drown in the USA crossing a very small river but it was in flood, washed her away over a fall :(
even a foot of water, in spate, can knock a large man of his feet
on the River Clyde here, near a lovely pub/restaurant by the water, 300 yards upstream there's an actual whirlpool that can and has sucked folk down and drowned 'em, flat spot of water after a small rapid so it looks lovely to swim in, it's barely visible except when leaves fall in the water and then you can see the gyre
our lochs are COLD, deep and you can't see for shit in them
But can you see the gimble?Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
Kelly Preston, 57, breast cancer:
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-53387236
I hadn't even heard she was ill.
Wow, sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delores Mulva
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Naya Rivera confirmed drowned.
Breaking news: Very sad for me:
https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment...9-15406085.php
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Grant Imahara, a roboticist, electrical engineer and host of the hit science show "Mythbusters," died suddenly at age 49, the Hollywood Reporter said Monday. He was 49.
The reported cause of death was a brain aneurysm.
I just saw that and honestly was a shock moment.
Maurice Roeves, Scottish actor
US folks may know him from 1995 Judge Dredd film
I think of him from the "UXB" series about WW2 bomb disposal squad
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newsb...?ocid=msedgdhp
Civil Rights Leader John Lewis.
May his spirit live on in the heart of everyone who fights for equality.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...-80/index.html
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TG_pm98W8c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px_5Z0pPlPc
got around to dropping these clips here.
Perhaps equality lives in the hearts of Sens. Marco Rubio and Dan Sullivan in the sense that to them, their black colleagues look alike:Quote:
Originally Posted by Merkus
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...cummings-photo
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/regis...192235561.html
Regis Philbin, 88, natural causes
He had a good run at least.
Eddie Shack, 83:
https://www.tsn.ca/toronto-maple-lea...t-83-1.1500018
And another: Olivia de Havilland, 104:
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-12717233
Herman Cain, Republican former presidential candidate who touted 9-9-9 tax plan, dies:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/30/form...ronavirus.html
He was diagnosed with covid-19 earlier this month, less than two weeks after attending President Trump's Tulsa rally.
Wilfred Brimley of the diabeeeetus adverts, though I remember him form "Remo"
I remember him from "Our House" with a teenaged Shannon Doherty, among other things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
Chadwick Boseman? At 43? Wtf?
I hate this year :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Zarbonius
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Go fuck yourself, 2020.
Colon Cancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zarbonius
Take good care of your butthole.
if you could repuff Jupiter's gas into a middle finger it would not be a big enough FUCK YOU to Cancers of all kinds, or 2020.
Obit: https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/28/enter...ies/index.html
Next film was due 2022. Do you figure they will recast the role, or just accelerate the Shuri storyline?
My first expectation would to be recast, but they could do a pivot + dedication that fans might find very moving. I had no idea a "Shuri storyline" was going to be a thing. I liked her a lot.
In the comics, she takes on the role of Black Panther for a time.
Cliff Robinson, NBA All-Star, 53:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/29/us/cl...rnd/index.html
I suspect they will use Shuri. Marvel has a big enough issue with people complaining about not enough black or female leadership roles. This also makes a lot of sense. Either have him "disappear" and the plot of the movie is to figure out what happened, or just have the opening scene be at his funeral and let the MCU say good-bye to him. Even have an old Steve Rogers cameo. Then have the rest of the movie be about Suri starting her reign. I think it would be better to avoid the whole challenge to leadership storyline as they did that in the first film. Just move on to whatever story they've come up with. Part of me wishes they had T'Challa die from cancer as well just to show that not even Wakanda has figured that disease out yet, but then having it revolve around figuring out what happened to him is a compelling story as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wool
Dang that is sad. He went through all those marvel movies and became a big star all the while battling cancer.
They can't recast, he is too big of a name and it was such a tragic death. I could see them do a CGI farewell like they did with Leia or have a funeral for him or just have him walk off into the CGI sunset, but they will have to acknowledge he is gone.
The CGI is obvious: Shuri will see him at the tree in the Djalia, with all the other past Panthers.
In college basketball, he was a gigantic figure, literally and figuratively:
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...jr-dies-age-78
He was one of the founding coaches for the Big East. In a way he is partially responsible for ESPN, When the Big East was formed they needed to find someone to air their games and ESPN was basically some trailers next to a satellite dish with a need for programming.
with a cactusQuote:
Originally Posted by Dramadon
coated in chili sauce
loaded with a fucking frag grenade! :p
He was arguably one of the three greatest pitchers of the last 50 years:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb...ia/ar-BB18EgoV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mse4NUI5BA
So which two of Johnson, Kershaw, Martinez, Clemens, and Maddux round out your top three? (I assume you're just talking about starters, so no Rivera.)
Clemens and Maddux are pretty easy choices. If you want to discount Clemens for roids (I don't care, but some do), you can plug Randy Johnson in his place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delores Mulva
Numbers aren't everything, and wins above replacement isn't necessarily the perfect stat, but for what it's worth, these are the top pitchers ranked by WAR who largely played after the mid-1960s (the first number is their ranking among all pitchers ever):
3. Roger Clemens (24 seasons) 138.7 WAR Throws right
7. Tom Seaver (20) 106.0 R
8. Greg Maddux (23) 104.8 R
9. Randy Johnson (22) 103.5 L
11. Phil Niekro (24) 97.0 R
12. Bert Blyleven (22) 96.1 R
13. Gaylord Perry (22) 93.0 R
17. Pedro Martinez (18) 86.1 R
19. Steve Carlton (24) 84.1 L
20. Nolan Ryan (27) 83.6 R
23. Mike Mussina (18) 82.8 R
24. Fergie Jenkins (19) 82.2 R
25. Bob Gibson (17) 81.7 R
26. Curt Schilling (20) 80.5 R
28. Tom Glavine (22) 73.9 L
30. Justin Verlander (16 so far) 72.3 R
32. Don Sutton (23) 68.3 R
33. Kevin Brown (19) 68.2 R
34. Rick Reuschel (19) 68.1 R
36. Jim Palmer (19) 67.6 R
38. Zack Greinke (17 so far) 67.4 R
40. John Smoltz (21) 66.4 R
42. Clayton Kershaw (13 so far) 66.3 L
43. Luis Tiant (19) 65.6 R
44. Roy Halladay (16) 65.4 R
JAWS (career WAR averaged with peak [7 best years] WAR) is a pretty good measure for evaluating players - at least for HoF consideration, as it values longevity as well as excellence.
Interestingly, Bert Blyleven (whose HoF merits were questioned for a long time) has a higher peak (7-year) WAR at 50.3 than Justin Verlander's 50.0, yet Verlander is widely considered to be a shoo-in when his time comes.
Always liked to watch Tom Terrific pitch when I was lucky enough for him to be pitching the one game that they showed on TV a week back then, he always seemed like a great guy as well.
I know WAR is the big thing these days, but for Bob Gibson to be that low just baffles the hell out of me, the guy was nearly unhittable. On the other hand, though, as big of a Nolan Ryan fan as I am I can see him not being in the top 10, and am a little bit surprised he is above possibly Glavine, Palmer and Smoltz.
Quote:
Originally Posted by PPatty
The main issue with Blyleven is that he never had a season when he was even close to being considered the best pitcher in his league (finished in the top seven in Cy Young voting four times in 22 years). He is 12th on the career WAR list for pitchers, so clearly he was a hell of a pitcher, but it's easier to appreciate in hindsight because he simply didn't stand out in the moment, his World Series appearances notwithstanding. It was a very long career of very good, which can also be said for the guy at 11th on the WAR list: Are there any memorable Phil Niekro moments?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zarbonius
Verlander, on the other hand, was seen as one of the top two pitchers in his league in at least five seasons -- won two Cy Youngs, finished second three other times. That matters.
WAR is a measurement relative to your peers (Wins Above Replacement, or in other words, how much better are you than the average player of your time?), and Gibson played when pitching in general was at its most dominant -- that's why MLB lowered the mound height after 1968, when the AL batting champ posted only a .301 average. So Gibson was great, as you note, but he also pitched in the era of Sandy Koufax, Denny McClain, etc., and as a result, all of those guys are, in a sense, penalized in WAR for being contemporaries; on the WAR link I posted earlier, the top 50 has no players whose career peaks were in the 1960s, other than Gibson. The top 100 includes Juan Marichal at No. 54, Don Drysdale at 56, Jim Bunning at 63, Whitey Ford at 85 and Koufax at 89 (partly because he only played 12 years, and career WAR is a cumulative stat).Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonlainy
I'm pretty sure I remember watching him pitch live in Cincinnati as a young boy. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonlainy