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I'm pretty happy with that as a finale.
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I also find myself appreciating the effort they went through in maintaining thematic elements throughout the entire season.
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The Marvels is pretty good, but it is decidedly feminine in how it approaches things if that's something that would bother you. And boy does it ever set up the future of the MCU....
Still sucks that some people had to sit through a shitty movie just for the post-credit scene payoff.
I just watched the scenes on youtube and skipped the unrelated throwaway parts.
Welp, I guess I'll have to skip it then, I don't want to get the cooties...Originally Posted by Delores Mulva
Give me all the cooties. In three months, when its on Disney+.
Maybe sooner if it flops hard enough! Go internet hate squad go!
It wasn't shitty. I enjoyed it a lot. But it was "girly", for lack of a better way of describing it. I can see that bothering some people. (Examples of "girly": plot points involving a musical, many cats, scenes where people process emotions, and a joke about writing fan fiction.)
Its interesting. My sister and a lot of the women I know loved the first Captain Marvel movie and talked about it a decent bit when it first came out. Now there wasn't a peep about this movie from any of them. I was reading that the ones who saw this one was trending 60%+ men. I guess they completely failed this time while something like Barbie was a huge success with the women demographic.
Marvel Studios Taking Stock of Strategy Amid ‘The Marvels' Meltdown -- The Hollywood Reporter
The anything-but-marvelous performance of The Marvels is a moment of reckoning for Marvel Studios, the production house that has been the superhero of the box office for much of the past 15 years, since Iron Man burst onto the scene in 2008.
Over the Nov. 10-12 weekend, The Marvels debuted to $46.1 million in North America, the worst opening in the history of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, which has raked in more than $30 billion in global movie ticket sales. The 33rd MCU installment was battered by withering audience exit scores and a ho-hum B CinemaScore.
But it wasn't the first warning sign that something was amiss within Marvel in terms of quality control as Feige's team went into overdrive producing shows for streaming; features Eternals and Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantamania were also slapped with B CinemaScores, while audiences began complaining about keeping up with an increasing number of shows on Disney+ to understand the overarching MCU story.
Behind the scenes, Marvel Studios and Disney were well aware The Marvels was in trouble before it hit the big screen. There was also a recognition that Feige and his team needed time to take stock of their theatrical tentpoles, sources tell The Hollywood Reporter. On Nov. 8, Bob Iger said during on an earnings call that Disney's movie empire has "lost focus" because of an emphasis on quantity over quality in the rush to feed Disney+ under the Bob Chapek regime (though it was Iger himself who initiated this push before Chapek's reign). Feige and his team felt this mandate keenly, to detriment of Marvel's movies, sources say.
A day later, Marvel and Disney revealed they were scaling back the number of superhero films they will release in 2024 from three to one. That news was made at the end of the SAG-AFTRA strike, and while the work stoppage, which shut down production on Deadpool 3, is certainly part of the reason for some of the date changes, it wasn't the only one, sources say.
Shawn Levy and Ryan Reynolds' Deadpool 3 will be Marvel and Disney's sole superhero offering in 2024, and will now open on July 26 instead of May 3. The high-profile threequel, which co-stars Hugh Jackman as Wolverine, is the first Deadpool to be released by Disney since it acquired 20th Century Fox and is also the first R-rated pic to be released by Marvel Studios. The marquee title is described as a multiverse-spanning feature that will set the stage for Marvel's upcoming Avengers movies.
Marvel Studios' Captain America: New World Order, which was previously set to hit theaters July 26, 2024, has been delayed nine months to Feb. 14, 2025, which will give the studio time to shoot additional material. Marvel's antihero-centric movie Thunderbolts, starring Florence Pugh and Sebastian Stan, is moving from Dec. 20, 2024, to July 25, 2025.
Among 2025 titles, Blade, starring Mahershala Ali, has been pushed back nine months, moving its release date from Feb. 14, 2025, to Nov. 7, 2025. Both Blade and Thunderbolts were scheduled to go into production this past summer but did not have scripts that were ready in time, so they were shut down amid the writers strike in May. The release-date changes announced Nov. 9 mean that Marvel has four superhero pics set for 2025 when including the Fantastic Four reboot, scheduled for release on May 2 (like Deadpool, Fantastic Four arrived from 20th Century), but that could change.
Rather than being a straight up sequel to the billion-dollar blockbuster Captain Marvel, The Marvels is something of a mashup. In the movie, Larson is joined by Iman Vellani, the breakout star of the Disney+ series Ms. Marvel, as well as WandaVision‘s Teyonah Parris as the grown-up version of Captain Marvel character Monica Rambeau. Mixing and matching characters for sequels is a game plan Marvel has used in the past on films like Captain America: Civil War, which featured nearly every Marvel character imaginable, but to much different results, grossing $1.15 billion in 2016.
"Why not simply make Captain Marvel 2? Why produce The Marvels when your audience identified, empathized, and even hero-identified with Brie Larson's character? More importantly, why offer people similar or the same characters and stories that are on Disney+ if you expect them to go to a theater together? Disney/Marvel diluted their product," says one film producer. "Of course, a picture works or fails for other reasons too, but losing so much value picture-over-picture is rare and hard to do."
Captain Marvel debuted to $153.4 million in North America on its way to earning a massive $1.13 billion worldwide, not adjusted for inflation. To be sure, that movie had a clear advantage in that it was teased in the post-credit scene of 2018's Avengers: Infinity War, while its titular star was a player in 2019's Avengers: Endgame (it was released between the two Marvel mega-blockbusters).
Until now, rival DC was the superhero studio that endured the biggest ups and downs, with a good number of its films opening to $50 million or less (in comparison, many MCU releases started with $100 million or more domestically). This summer, DC's The Flash debuted to a dismal $55 million domestically on its way to topping out at a paltry $270.6 million globally.
Notes Comscore box office analyst Paul Dergarabedian, "the uneven performance of all superhero films in recent years should be a wake-up call in terms of how these films are conceived, executed and marketed moving forward."
Marvel Studios’ What If…? Season 2 | Official Trailer | Disney+
The unspoken subtext is that Kevin Feige has spread himself too thin:
Disney CEO Bob Iger says ‘No. 1 priority’ is turning around Marvel, acknowledges ‘too many sequels’ after box office misses
The actress that played X-23 in Logan will show up in Deadpool 3 as an older X-23, along with many other continuity crossovers.
Deadpool 3: Wolverine X-23 Returns Breakdown and Teaser Easter Eggs
They're also introducing new X-men variants to introduce the rebooted younger X-men of the future movies.
Marvel Studios’ WHAT IF…? Season 2 — FINAL TRAILER | Disney+
Marvel won’t move forward with Jonathan Majors after he’s found guilty of assault
A New York jury on Monday found actor Jonathan Majors guilty of assault and harassment of his former girlfriend during a domestic dispute.
Majors, a rising star who has appeared in Disney’s Marvel franchise and “Creed III,” was convicted on Monday of one count of reckless assault in the 3rd degree and a non-criminal charge of harassment as a violation.
He was acquitted on another assault charge and one count of aggravated harassment.
Majors, who was present in court on Monday, held a straight a face while the verdict was being read. He left the courthouse without commenting to members of the media.
In a statement to CNN on Monday afternoon, Priya Chaudhry, an attorney for Majors, said he “still has faith in the process and looks forward to fully clearing his name.”
Shortly after news of the verdict, a source with knowledge of the matter told CNN that Marvel Studios would not be moving forward on any future projects with Majors, who was set to star as the villainous Kang in the upcoming “Avengers: The Kang Dynasty.”
A representative for Marvel declined to comment when reached by CNN.
The jury in the case deliberated for about four and a half hours total before reaching a verdict.
The trial, which began on December 4, stems from a March domestic dispute involving Majors and his former girlfriend, Grace Jabbari. Majors had pleaded not guilty to misdemeanor charges of assault and aggravated harassment.
During closing arguments last week, prosecutors alleged Majors “didn’t hesitate to use physical violence” against Jabbari when he grabbed Jabbari’s right hand, twisted her arm behind her back and then “struck a blow” to her head.
Majors’ attorney reiterated his innocence during her closing argument, calling the accusations against him “fake” and alleging that Jabbari was the aggressor in their argument.
Majors did not testify during the trial, but he was present in the New York City courtroom for the duration of the proceedings.
According to the New York Times, Jabbari testified on December 5 that Majors assaulted her in the backseat of a car during the March dispute, which prosecutors said happened after Jabbari saw a romantic text message on his phone from someone else.
“We are gratified to see justice served by today’s guilty verdict. Ms. Jabbari testified publicly and truthfully, even though reliving these traumatic events on the witness stand was obviously painful,” Jabbari’s attorneys said in a statement to CNN on Monday. “We are grateful to the jurors and the Judge for their attention and patience, and to the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office for their hard work and support.”
Until his legal troubles, Majors had starred in a number of high-profile film roles with more slated for production. He appeared as Kang in the Marvel film, “Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania,” which released back in February. He also appeared in the Disney+ series “Loki,” which aired its second season in October.
“Avengers: The Kang Dynasty” was to release in 2026 and would have served as a starring vehicle for Majors. He was also set to star in another film centered around his Marvel character, “Avengers: Secret Wars,” slated for a 2027 debut.
With Majors’ career trajectory already paused due to the trial, his professional future is now in question. The actor could face up to a year in prison for the assault conviction. He also faces a maximum of 15 days in jail and a $250 fine for the harassment violation.
His sentencing is scheduled for February 6 next year.
Looks like it's variant time.
They should just shitcan Kang and move on to a better villain. Loki pretty much solved the problem and having freaking antman defeat the new big bad was so damned stupid.
Last edited by Philo; December 18th, 2023 at 09:30 PM.
It's official — meet the next Fantastic Four (refresh if you don't see tweet):
https://twitter.com/MarvelStudios/st...96892455694452
Watched it tonight on streaming. I greatly enjoyed it … and it should not have been a theatrical release. Again, it didn't feel like a feature film so much as an episode of MCU: The Neverending Series.
I love Ms. Marvel and the family dynamic she brings from the streaming series, and Kamala seemed to have decent chemistry with the other two — I got a big kick out of their training montage and relished the sequence on the musical planet all the way until the Kree baddie arrives. The Flerken remain hilarious, and their use as escape pods amused me.
But as much as I got personally dug the experience, much of the time I was thinking in the back of my mind that there's no way this would ever have widespread appeal. You've got three characters with little to no cachet, the fact that it's three females will automatically turn off a certain male segment of the fanbase. Even worse, two of them, Carol and Monica, still have all the personality of a tree, and they're dumped into a sloppy piece of storytelling to boot.
Epilogue and mid-credits scenes were cute. Get ready for the mutants.
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