So, USA's setting up another false flag war, but one that will bite us all in the ass

[Zarbonius]

Yeah, how's that working out? Ready to come over to the other side yet?

The Gish Gallop is one issue, and I stand by my approach on that.

The constant abuse is another, and I am now addressing it directly (see previous post).

[Ninetoes]

Don't forget the part where he accused a Ukrainian Jew of being a Nazi sympathizer.

And per his last post or the one right before, evidently Ukrainians are his new boogeyman when he can't blame the Jews.

[FilanFyretracker]

again also, None of this would have happened if Russia stayed out of a country that is not theirs.

[FilanFyretracker]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65269975 feds grabbed a suspect in the documents leak.

[Wool]

Putin will destroy Russia before anyone in the West does.

Whinge, lies, bullshit to excuse America's insane warmongering as usual!
"But think of the children!" and an incident, real or not, self inflicted by the CIA or not, where some suffer, is used to justify actions that kill hundreds of thousands or even millions
You know, like the terrorism in Vietnam, Lockerbie Bombing, Beirut Barrack bombings, 9/11, my my so many convenient excuses for America's wars!

The irony of posting this from within the Evil Empire is just too much, considering the context of what exactly you were replying to. Being punished for protesting a war is itself war-mongering. Now I've heard everything.

So why are you shitting on us, exactly? Will you continue holding us here at Graffe's accountable for the sins of our political leaders until those leaders see the light and change their ways? Does that make any sense? Or is this just about finding a convenient target to abuse? An outlet for your rage against the world, that you can justify to yourself as somehow deserving of that abuse.

One post, I could understand. Two, three? Sure, you're caught up in the issues and lose your head. But this has been going on for the last few years. Not the raging at the policies or the leaders. The shitting on US RIGHT HERE as though WE are responsible for it.

Pretty sure I've tried this argument before; didn't work for me either. I feel like it started after people began giving detailed explanations for why he is wrong, merely than simply brushing him off. Take that as you will. Dmitry is far harsher with him and he just laughs it off.

[Ninetoes]

Happy Moskva Sinking Day to all who celebrate!
Moskva.jpg

[Eremius]

Damn you. I was drinking coffee.

[Delores Mulva]

And per his last post or the one right before, evidently Ukrainians are his new boogeyman when he can't blame the Jews.

I don't know that he's crossed into explicit anti-Semitism. His sources are big on dogwhistles, and he may not be getting what they're laying down. This isn't just wishful thinking; he was genuinely surprised and remorseful when he crossed the line and got reported for some other slur a while back, one which was likely being used by his sources without any sort of issue. But the Ukrainian thing, yeah, it's getting uncomfortable, like "Grandma telling me what they used to call Brazil nuts" uncomfortable. I'm hoping he pulls back from it, because that's one slippery slope he's on.

feds grabbed a suspect in the documents leak.

Would it be irony if I followed up a "ooh, he needs to lay off the stereotyping" paragraph with a "this is my shocked face" statement about the leaker's background and politics? It is interesting that even conservative groups are split on this. Reddit's /Conservative subreddit, which is about as right-wing as it gets, is over 50% opposed to Marjorie Taylor Greene defending this guy's actions. Only the most hardcore anti-war amongst them are in favour, and only concerning the part about American boots being on the ground there (which was already known). Perhaps the guy who told kids on the "Thug Shake Central" Discord classified secrets wasn't doing it to avoid nuclear war, but just to impress fellow gamers? Maybe you don't glorify that guy? He's no Snowden.

[FilanFyretracker]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...robe-rcna79675 is the article

And so one can avoid Twitter completely the article even has it quoted.

“Jake Teixeira is white, male, christian, and antiwar. That makes him an enemy to the Biden regime. And he told the truth about troops being on the ground in Ukraine and a lot more,” Greene, a member of the Homeland Security Committee, said on Twitter. "Ask yourself who is the real enemy?”

You are the enemy Greene, You support Jan6. And you support this guy, Being anti-war is holding a sign outside the white house and a bullhorn, its calling your senator to express your dislike for things, its making a comment about it online. However it is not leaking highly classified documents.

[Bonlainy]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...robe-rcna79675 is the article

And so one can avoid Twitter completely the article even has it quoted.

You are the enemy Greene, You support Jan6. And you support this guy, Being anti-war is holding a sign outside the white house and a bullhorn, its calling your senator to express your dislike for things, its making a comment about it online. However it is not leaking highly classified documents.

I simply can't understand how this peon in the National Guard even was able to get hold of these documents so he could leak them. I mean, WTF. I guess it will be revealed eventually, but no matter what it just seems there is more to it.

[Silverblade-T-E]

I simply can't understand how this peon in the National Guard even was able to get hold of these documents so he could leak them. I mean, WTF. I guess it will be revealed eventually, but no matter what it just seems there is more to it.

Cause he could NEVER HAVE GOT HOLD OF THEM AT ALL, AND IS A PATSY!

Jeesh folk, wake up before you die in a nuclear fireball

Those documents were not only highly classified, they were from different departments
So however had the physical documents managed to avoid extremely tight rules that prevent such documents being taken out to where they can be photoed, rules that prevent them being amassed in one spot except for the very highest echelons of government...etc
You cannot even have a mobile phone or camera in areas or even buildings where such documents are kept

Someone on high leaked these, and this poor bastard has been set up to satiate the fear/anger of the Mob (in Congress, the Deep State or dipshits who believe the "Party Line"...and as I keep saying it's not about GOP/Dems, they're all in it together)

Various suppositions on why it was leaked include:

1. A way to ease the Public, or give excuse, for when Ukraine surrenders, oh yes, it's coming, anyone who thinks otherwise is a fucking utter moron, balance of forces etc.
   Fact Russians went in with such a small force right at start should have clued anyone with a working "free will" that things were very very far from what we were told by our media/leaders
2. Some folks know the lunatics in DC constant escalation risks an actual nuclear exchange and thus some group/individual are/is desperate to stop this rolling train wreck going full Armageddon

[Silverblade-T-E]

[QUOTE=Ninetoes;1922500]Happy Moskva Sinking Day to all who celebrate!


as noted in some of the leaks, the casualty figures are 7:1 in the Russian's favour.
Grow up.

Oh and from trials of some of those involved in the 9/11 atrocity, well guess what?
The US intelligence services WERE involved, by omission or commission of action, we will have to wait and see
And that's from DoD lawyers.
Fucking told ye so.
sigh

[Delores Mulva]

as noted in some of the leaks, the casualty figures are 7:1 in the Russian's favour.

https://www.businessinsider.com/tuck...cuments-2023-4

Fox News host Tucker Carlson on Thursday rattled off seemingly made-up casualty figures from "leaked intelligence" to argue that Ukraine is losing the war with Russia.

But the actual leaked classified United States documents show that more than twice as many Russian soldiers as Ukrainian troops have been killed.

During his "Tucker Carlson Tonight" broadcast, the Fox News star said that the leaked documents show "Ukraine is in fact losing the war."

"Seven Ukrainians are being killed for every Russian," Carlson claimed, without citing his direct source.

A recently leaked US intelligence document paints a very different picture of the casualties in the war.

The document suggests that Russia has suffered between 189,500 and 223,000 casualties with up to 43,000 troops killed in action, while Ukraine has suffered between 124,500 and 131,000 casualties with up to 17,500 soldiers killed in action.

The leaked document was subsequently altered and shared around Russian Telegram accounts to falsely show the reverse: that Russia had suffered fewer casualties. But even those faked numbers were still lower casualty rates than what Carlson referenced.

[Ninetoes]

So just going to ignore the Russian war crimes again? If it were US troops you'd be frothing at the mouth, but since it's the Russians you are a goddamn mute.

[Ninetoes]

https://www.businessinsider.com/tuck...cuments-2023-4

Math is hard

[Ninetoes]

[QUOTE=Silverblade-T-E;1922539]

Happy Moskva Sinking Day to all who celebrate!


as noted in some of the leaks, the casualty figures are 7:1 in the Russian's favour.
Grow up.

Except:
1) WE have already shown the 7:1 figure is a lie
2) What has any of your blather have to do with the sinking of the Moskva - regardless of casualty numbers, IT STILL GOT FUCKING SUNK.

Oh and from trials of some of those involved in the 9/11 atrocity, well guess what?
The US intelligence services WERE involved, by omission or commission of action, we will have to wait and see
And that's from DoD lawyers.
Fucking told ye so.
sigh

So you are saying US Forces were outed as sinking the Moskva before it happened? Or the morelikely, you are going on about something thats likely untrue and has nothing to do with Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine.

[Delores Mulva]

I think he's responding to me saying that he's calling just about everything a false flag back in post#380, by defending his 9/11 Truther stuff. But as we saw with him directly quoting Tucker Carlson, his sources for this information are actively malevolent. If Silverblade straight-up made stuff up without reading the Internet first, it would be better than what he believes.

Math is hard

It's worse than "math is hard". That would be an honest mistake. This is propaganda, pure and simple. And the "WAKE UP" guy is swallowing all of it uncritically.

[Ninetoes]

I was being a smartass

[Ronin]

Jeesh folk, wake up before you die in a nuclear fireball

Yeah man, we gotta get you out of Scotland. Russian state TV basically describes Scotland and the rest of the UK as a hellscape. Stuff about how you guys only have squirrels to eat and are constantly on the verge of cannibalism. Citizens can't go outside as they are under threat from LGBTG+, being attacked and harassed. Russia also says Ukrainians are being used as slaves by the West (UK+US), which is why Russian advisor (Sergei Markov, 2022) said they'd nuke UK cities throughout the UK (yeah Scotland too).

I am sure the folks here had no idea you had it that bad. So let's do something about it. Let's get you to Russia. Perhaps we can set up a GoFundMe to get you there.

My cousin speaks fluent Russian (as he worked there in the past) and could get you a recommendation for a job (requirement) and likely still has some connections. You type and speak English, so he could definitely get you one too. In addition, I am sure your viewpoints align better with Russia anyway, so that's helpful for a position as well.

https://iasservices.org.uk/moving-to-russia-from-uk/

What do you say?

[Zarbonius]

as noted in some of the leaks, the casualty figures are 7:1 in the Russian's favour.
Grow up.

Oh and from trials of some of those involved in the 9/11 atrocity, well guess what?
The US intelligence services WERE involved, by omission or commission of action, we will have to wait and see
And that's from DoD lawyers.
Fucking told ye so.
sigh

Go model something. Make art like you used to. Do the things you love, or used to love.

Stop reading whatever the hell it is you are reading.

Stop watching whatever the hell it is you are watching.

It is poison.

Poison.


And it is killing you.