Ok one only the Techies will understand:
IP address obtained from DHCP : 192.168.1.60
Gateway: 192.168.1.1
DNS servers (Not obtained from DHCP) 10.1.10.20
10.1.10.30
--- Geee - the internet don't work?? I wonder why U Can't find any websites?
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Because somebody was stupid --Why hell was it configured like that?
those two DNS IP's are my actual office DNS servers.
But they'd taken a laptop set the dns servers manually - but then the tech was setting up the VPN client - well the VPN only accepts connections from outside, so she fired up a Verizon Mi-Fi connected to that, but Didn't change the DNS back to DHCP.
When of course, if they'd have left the whole network settings to DHCP they would have been just fine.
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I've seen that done a lot over the years, actually.
Someone will have a poorly configured DNS server, so some tech will fix it by setting to something static and not note anything anywhere or explain to the user what they did.
User moves somewhere else/visits a spoke office/any number of other things and suddenly things don't work.
What's worse is when some tech starts using the hosts file as a solution for any and everything that won't resolve instead of looking into WHY it won't resolve.
2 years later someone upgrades something in the infrastructure or changes an A record to point to a different IP because they swapped out a server and BAM nobody can figure out why this one guy can't access anything.
These days most level 1 techs don't even KNOW what a hosts file is and DNS is black magic voodoo to most of them.
My favorite was the one where some client could access their newly externally hosted website from outside of their LAN but not from inside the LAN.
Turns out their internal domain was the same as their website: companyname.com and nobody thought to update the www DNS record on the PDC when they moved the website from internally hosted to externally hosted. Their contracted developer had everything working fine because he'd never tried it from the LAN.
Took FOUR techs three days before someone thought to escalate the issue to me.
They were absolutely certain that the web developer had messed up and wouldn't let go of it long enough to contemplate any other options.
Now, I've seen a WHOLE lot of web developers who don't understand jack squat about client-server networks or dns or smtp or anything. I could be a six-armed hindu deity and I wouldn't have enough digits to count the number of times a web developer has fucked up SMTP mailflow by not understanding what MX and SPF records are, but you'd think when it works 100% correctly externally and ONLY doesn't work from within the LAN, that you'd stop looking at the web developer right?
Nope, they finally went to me.
5 minutes later? Fixed.
I'm still shocked that they couldn't figure out that pinging it from the inside returned the internal IP to the old internal webserver, which was no longer there, while pinging it from our office gave the correct external server address.
One quick A record change later and all was good.
The sheer shock and awe of the techs around me, two of them level 2 technicians with 10+ years experience, just made me hang my head and convinced me that troubleshooting simply cannot be taught.
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The answer to that is quite simple - people don't read. when they do read they don't comprehend.I'm still shocked that they couldn't figure out that pinging it from the inside returned the internal IP to the old internal webserver, which was no longer there, while pinging it from our office gave the correct external server address.
To them, ping is magic - it either works or it doesn't, they don't "interpret".
I've got beer to drink and You guys are wasting my time.
Using your brain to comprehend the logic of a system is apparently engineer level sorcery to most. I learned long ago to just not dwell on it if the person in question isn't a tech of some sort. If they are I may or may not report the lack of useful technical skills to their chain of command.
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Yeah. I totally get it.
I just don't completely understand the scope of your realm which you do tech support for. Are you the in-hour Sr IT Guy for a large corporation, or are you the Sr guy who goes throughout a wide portfolio of clients?
If the case is the latter, I could better understand this being the case.
Were you asking me or Merrick?I just don't completely understand the scope of your realm which you do tech support for. Are you the in-hour Sr IT Guy for a large corporation
For me, I'm the Senior IT guy for a small local government in MN.
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Coworker: Customer needs a CD with their licensed program updates shipped to them because they don't have internet
Me: Okay
(created the CD and had it shipped)
Coworker: The customer complained that you didn't include the internet-based securities resource app
Me: Right, because they don't have the internet
Coworker: But if they download the program while, say, at a Starbucks or something, can they use the program then?
Me: If they don't have internet in their office, they can't use the app, because they need to have a continuous internet connection for it
Coworker: But they don't have internet at their office
Me: Yes, now you understand
Coworker: So why didn't you send them the app update?
Hey Melcar, can you help us with this printer -- just got this new one, and I got all the other computers connected to it, but this one won't connect... We asked "other tech" - and she said something about this computer was restricted?
Melcar: "UMmmmm what?"
"Yeah, it didn't make any sense to me either"
Melcar: "OK, let me just take a look Ah, don't have the right driver edition... Yes I suppose 32 bit windows is restricted from using the 64bit driver... Give me 2 minutes and I'll load the 32 driver onto the server."
Read Understand - Take action... Yup - I'm a miracle worker to these fools.
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I was asking you.
And yeah. Sr. IT Guy, Local Government. It all makes sense.
I know a couple guys who work in similar sections of my city, and I've heard all too many similar stories from them.
Bottom Line? - People think their offices are just as easily "plug and play" as their home network. When problems arise, they think YOU (the IT GUY) is the problem, and YOU don't understand how "the internet" works.
This is THE reason why I chose to avoid this line of work about 15 years ago - End Users are too capable of looking up the wrong information that is irrelevant by way of the Google without asking the proper questions, paying proper attention to related syntax and then implementing those small grains of perceived understanding properly - and I can't deal with it.
Honestly his stories aren't too different than ones you will hear from any competent SysAdmin.
Except the fucker will never provide pictures.
I've been receiving nearly daily calls from this one particular customer who keeps playing phone tag with his Account Manager. I send her an IM after the most recent contact from the customer.
Me: The customer really wants to talk to you regarding his pricing changes
Her: Did you tell him I was at lunch?
Me: I said you were unavailable
Her: Did you tell him that I have a new iPhone to pay for?
Me: No, but somehow I doubt he'd appreciate it.
Her: Is he on the phone now?
Me: No, I let him go, let him go, he didn't want to wait anymore, let him go, let him go, until you came back to give what-for. I don't care what he has to say, but he wants to give us money so let him pay
Her: I don't care what he's going to say, let the man rage on and on and on... New Yorkers never bothered me anyway!
Please tell me you had good harmony during this part.No, I let him go, let him go, he didn't want to wait anymore, let him go, let him go, until you came back to give what-for. I don't care what he has to say, but he wants to give us money so let him pay
Her: I don't care what he's going to say, let the man rage on and on and on... New Yorkers never bothered me anyway!
I've got beer to drink and You guys are wasting my time.
You would say this on the day I left my Iphone at my house too!Except the fucker will never provide pictures.
Fucker.
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