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    Hey, D.C. might actually win a sports championship

    Not that anyone on this message board gives a shit, but after living in this area for the last 15 years, I find myself warming up to the idea of cheering on a local team. So go Caps! (still rather see the Flyers win, but they're still mired in the mediocrity that has gripped the franchise since the Finals run in 2010).

    Yes, I've now jinxed them and the Caps will revert to the mean and blow this series and a noob, reject-filled franchise that is so pathetic that it has to put on an amateurish game-of-thrones-meets-the-ice-capades show before every game will hump the Stanley Cup in a soulless cruise-ship-wannabe town in the middle of a Godforsaken desert.

    But it is pretty cool to see people in the area getting excited about something other than politics and foodie restaurants. I've never seen crowds like this milling around Chinatown:



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    Re: Hey, D.C. might actually win a sports championship

    I'll watch the third period to see if Ovi finally gets it done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delores Mulva View Post
    I'll watch the third period to see if Ovi finally gets it done.
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    Re: Hey, D.C. might actually win a sports championship

    And now he adds another trophy to the case. By the way, for making sure that Vegas took Luca Sbisa off our hands, you owe the Canucks a Coke. A thread from the Canucks Reddit that says it all:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/canucks/com...za_deliveries/

    Quote Originally Posted by PPatty
    Yes, I've now jinxed them and the Caps will revert to the mean and blow this series and a noob, reject-filled franchise that is so pathetic that it has to put on an amateurish game-of-thrones-meets-the-ice-capades show before every game will hump the Stanley Cup in a soulless cruise-ship-wannabe town in the middle of a Godforsaken desert.
    I know some of that is standard "I hate the team we're playing" talk, but honestly, I felt happy for Vegas. They had a great fan turnout all season, the team was built for speed and finesse (except for Sbisa, ahahaha that they took him), and my only bitterness towards them is that they were handed the conditions to make a great team right out of the gate. And when they booed Bettman? Like he said, they really are an NHL city now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delores Mulva View Post
    I know some of that is standard "I hate the team we're playing" talk, but honestly, I felt happy for Vegas.
    I actually don't hate the VGKs, but seriously, that shit they do before the games was lame as hell. I get that it's Vegas, but at least do Celine-Dion-quality Vegas, not Carrot-Top-level Vegas:



    Quote Originally Posted by Delores Mulva
    my only bitterness towards them is that they were handed the conditions to make a great team right out of the gate.
    I know people have been saying that since they've been tearing through the playoffs, but let's be honest: No one was ranking Vegas' roster in the top half of the league back when the season started. These VGKs don't strike me as a budding dynasty; it feels more like, say, the '91 Minnesota North Stars, '96 Panthers or, for that matter, the '98 Caps, teams that basically rode a hot goalie to the finals, where the teams were finally exposed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Delores Mulva
    And when they booed Bettman? Like he said, they really are an NHL city now.
    I wonder how many of the boos came from Vegas fans as opposed to the Caps fans who flew in -- the boos seemed gentler than in years past.

    But, hey good for the Caps, congrats to them:


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    I know people have been saying that since they've been tearing through the playoffs, but let's be honest: No one was ranking Vegas' roster in the top half of the league back when the season started.
    TSN had them at #11 in their Power Rankings on Oct. 9 (week one). They finished fifth in the league standings, so that's not too far off. The ability to pick a second pairing D-man off most teams in the league gave them a lot of power in trades, as reliable defenders are tough to obtain. They had a clean slate with cap space, which gave them a lot of flexibility with deals. And they had a few teams that didn't dump exposed players (mostly to support Cup runs) over a barrel. The thing nobody predicted as being valuable, which is a credit to their GM, is this: since he had no existing roster, he was able to build a team that was perfectly suited to the way the game is being played today, with a focus on speed. The draft conditions guaranteed that he'd be able to get players to support that from just about every team.

    What the draft didn't set Vegas up for is a dynasty. They could go for "now", and pick senior players with some skill (James Neal, Marc-Andre Fleury) that would soon be unrestricted free agents, or pick younger players with weaker resumes and focus on building for "later". A fair number of their key players are free agents, their average age is fairly high, they have maybe one more year before drafting for now and not later catches up to them. They have draft picks stockpiled for 2019 and 2020, so they should recover faster than a normal team would, but the current window will close.

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    ...teams that basically rode a hot goalie to the finals, where the teams were finally exposed.
    I think of Vegas more like some of the trap teams of the 90's: they have a system, everyone bought in. Eventually they ran into a team with legitimate top-tier superstars that figured out the system and beat them by just being better, player versus player. Plus, Vegas couldn't keep Sbisa hidden forever! I think that might be the reason why Pelly-Smith turned into such a monster in the finals: he was getting matched against the bottom of the Golden Knights roster, and that meant Sbisa.

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    I was in Vegas last weekend, and it was all about the VGK's, and it was pretty cool. I also heard that at the start of the season they were 500:1 to win the Cup, and when they got closer to the finals casinos were trying to see if people who had bet on them would take an early payoff for a smaller amount. Now I'm not sure if that is true but it makes for a good story.
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    Woooo! Go Lars Eller!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawlin View Post
    Woooo! Go Lars Eller!!!!
    His series winner was the epitome of a grinder goal:



    Lars Eller’s game-winning goal ignited a Capitals watch party in Denmark at 5 a.m.

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    And it made up for his disastrous missed goal in game one of the series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delores Mulva View Post
    And it made up for his disastrous missed goal in game one of the series.
    The media over here forgotdownplayed that quite a bit. But we're biased, obviously
    This is the first time that a Danish-born hockey player has won the Stanley Cup; since we don't have perpetual snow ala Sweden, Norway and Finland, hockey has always had somewhat of a niche life here.
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    We tried to make that happen earlier, Dawlin. We did!

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    Holy crap, that was amazing!

    The best part about it was the slow-motion turn of the goalie's head when he realized what happened.

    HAHAHAHA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawlin View Post
    The media over here forgotdownplayed that quite a bit. But we're biased, obviously
    This is the first time that a Danish-born hockey player has won the Stanley Cup; since we don't have perpetual snow ala Sweden, Norway and Finland, hockey has always had somewhat of a niche life here.
    That just means that unlike Finnish hockey fans, the Danish ones are higher quality personnel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merrick ap'Milandra View Post
    Holy crap, that was amazing!

    The best part about it was the slow-motion turn of the goalie's head when he realized what happened.

    HAHAHAHA.
    Not that I'm trying to pile onto the Sbisa-bashing of Delores and the other Canucks fans -- but that goal was largely Sbisa's fault.

    When the other team has the puck, he's supposed to mark the opposing forwards around the net on his side; that's hockey 101. Instead, he started puck watching and lost track of his man, which is why Eller was able to get behind Flower Boy.

    (Of course, kudos to Eller for doing his job and driving to the net in the first place)
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    Re: Hey, D.C. might actually win a sports championship

    Also, it was Sbisa's shitty attempt at clearing behind the net that began the whole sequence.

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    Re: Hey, D.C. might actually win a sports championship

    When you win the Stanley Cup, you get to live all those college moments you never had because you started playing in the NHL as a teenager:




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    I wish the NHL would clean up the rules on college players. Right now, if you draft someone that goes to university, you have one month after they leave school to sign them before they become free agents (assuming they stay longer than the normal rights retention time). That makes it risky to draft anyone who is heading to university, since they can walk without compensation, and because teams avoid drafting such players there's a disincentive to attend a post-secondary institution. I'd like to see the rule changed to "rights retention time starts when they leave school", to make teams feel better about drafting university-bound players and to encourage players to continue their education. The best players will still skip school and go to the NHL at 18 or 19, but everybody else will have a path available that isn't just about riding a bus in the AHL/ECHL/etc.

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