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    Re: Here are the people whose names have been floated for Trumpís Cabinet

    Quote Originally Posted by Varia re: Tillerson
    Here's a thing- if its "unnamed sources" or "sources familiar with the thinking of..." its almost certainly bullshit and wish-fullfilment LARPing by whoever wrote the article, and is really what people mean when they say fake news.
    I like that this comment was still at the top of the page when Tillerson got the axe.

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    Hey, here's a good idea. We're entering potentially historic negotiations with North Korea... let's fire the Secretary of State!

    To be honest, I'm surprised Tillerson didn't resign last week. Trump undercut him horribly with this North Korea announcement.

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    Re: Here are the people whose names have been floated for Trumpís Cabinet

    Quote Originally Posted by Khieran View Post
    Hey, here's a good idea. We're entering potentially historic negotiations with North Korea... let's fire the Secretary of State!

    To be honest, I'm surprised Tillerson didn't resign last week. Trump undercut him horribly with this North Korea announcement.
    Well, Trump have said it before - 'I'm the only one that matters', so who cares about a secretary of state.

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    Re: Here are the people whose names have been floated for Trumpís Cabinet

    Quote Originally Posted by Deabn View Post
    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/02/us/politics/cia-deputy-director-gina-haspel-torture-thailand.html

    The TL;DR of it seems to be that she is a long time CIA officer who played a significant role in torture but was well respected by her colleagues. I feel dirty just writing that.
    Oh, she'll fit right in with the Trump administration... she personally oversaw the torture of at least 2 people, one of whom got waterboarded 83 times in one month (according to MSNBC - the link above is paywalled for me). And she ordered the destruction of videotapes of those tortures. Yeah, Trump knows how to pick 'em!

    *edit* Oh, I just saw that Tillerson blamed the British nerve gas attacks on Russia (after the British PM did). Wonder if that was the tipping point for Trump?

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    Damn, this stuff is changing so fast, they're even firing people I've never heard of:

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-...red-1520945928

    Trump's personal assistant was fired yesterday and escorted out of the White House for a "security issue". That sounds interesting, especially given the security sieve that is this White House.

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    It says something that I immediately checked the Politico Trump Madness bracket to see if anyone just got a bye into the next round.

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    Re: Here are the people whose names have been floated for Trumpís Cabinet

    Quote Originally Posted by Delores Mulva View Post
    It says something that I immediately checked the Politico Trump Madness bracket to see if anyone just got a bye into the next round.
    LOL!

    Now, AP is reporting that Steve Goldstein, a top aide to Tillerson is fired as well.

    Tuesday morning massacre in progress?

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    This admin is going through people like Star Trek went through extras.
    "When you name your baby Jeeves...you've pretty much set up his career for life. You don't see many Hit Men, for example, named Jeeves. "Pardon me sir, but I must wack you now."
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    Quote Originally Posted by FilanFyretracker View Post
    This admin is going through people like Star Trek went through extras.
    Someone should start wearing a red shirt to work at the White House every day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khieran View Post
    LOL!

    Now, AP is reporting that Steve Goldstein, a top aide to Tillerson is fired as well.

    Tuesday morning massacre in progress?
    Goldstein sent an email to someone in the press saying Tillerson was unaware of why he was fired and had been planning to stay.

    Pretty sure* the Whitehouse was giving it in background that Tillerson was informed Friday, but the Goldstein email and reports that Tillerson found out about it from Trump's tweet seem to contradict that.

    *I thought WaPo the article I posted had this, but it seems to have been rewritten with the Goldstein info.

    Meanwhile an ICE spokesperson quit because he was unwilling to reinforce Trump's lies about an immigration raid.
    Last edited by Deabn; March 13th, 2018 at 11:49 AM.

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    Didn't Nixon at least have a functional government? =p
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    The BBC has obtained leaked emails that show a lobbying effort to get US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson sacked for failing to support the United Arab Emirates against regional rival Qatar.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43281519

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    Saudi Arabia complaining about a country supporting/funding terrorism.

    Pot meet kettle...
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    Re: Here are the people whose names have been floated for Trumpís Cabinet

    Quote Originally Posted by Khieran View Post
    Oh, she'll fit right in with the Trump administration... she personally oversaw the torture of at least 2 people, one of whom got waterboarded 83 times in one month (according to MSNBC - the link above is paywalled for me). And she ordered the destruction of videotapes of those tortures. Yeah, Trump knows how to pick 'em!

    *edit* Oh, I just saw that Tillerson blamed the British nerve gas attacks on Russia (after the British PM did). Wonder if that was the tipping point for Trump?

    remember I said WAY back about Trump and Russia...that although Putin & CO think they have got things going their way having a traitor in the Whitehouse, in the end, there's strong possibility of that being rebounded on them as a deliberate long term plan of the fuckers who've been dragging us into war after war....
    While Russki assassination is possible, it's not really likely in so many cases (why waste time and effort on "has beens"? and why primarily in Britain?) and especially in light of the massive curtain of ignorance and "oh it was suicide!" bullshit from the British government on so many of these deaths until lately.
    yeah an MI6 agent stuffs himself inside his own briefcase, or an ex-Russian spook has a heart attack....caused by a very rare poisonous plant...seriously, WTF ?! Russians could have been way more subtle, OR, way more obvious
    me thinks maybe some are Russian hits but much of it's set up for a cassus belli, like, you know, that utter bullshit war in Iraq, based on WHO'S evidence, hm?

    Trump , to save his ass, may well start a war with Russia to "prove he's not a traitor" (or sequence of events that leads to war)

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    Re: Here are the people whose names have been floated for Trumpís Cabinet

    The fired personal aide, McEntee, had some really important jobs in the White House:

    Quote Originally Posted by WSJ
    Mr. McEntee wasn’t as well known as the others, but had been a constant presence at Mr. Trump’s side for the past three years. He made sure Mr. Trump had markers to sign autographs, delivered messages to him in the White House residence and, over the weekend, ensured that the clocks in the White House residence were adjusted for daylight-saving time.

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    Re: Here are the people whose names have been floated for Trumpís Cabinet

    Quote Originally Posted by Delores Mulva View Post
    The fired personal aide, McEntee, had some really important jobs in the White House:
    I'm sure other important duties he was responsible for were things like "FIRST pants, THEN your shoes!"
    The more I learn the more I realize I have yet to learn.

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    Re: Here are the people whose names have been floated for Trumpís Cabinet

    Quote Originally Posted by Delores Mulva View Post
    The fired personal aide, McEntee, had some really important jobs in the White House:
    According to the guy who had the same job under Obama, he also carries the daily briefing book, and a few other tasks that require him to have a security clearance. He was apparently fired for online gambling and tax problems, so yeah, sounds like he was a risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deabn View Post
    Trump asked Tillerson to resign; Pompeo to move to State. Gina Haspel, Deputy Director to Pompeo's at CIA, to become Director. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...f68_story.html

    Edit: an article about Haspel from when she was made Deputy Director:

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/0...-thailand.html

    The TL;DR of it seems to be that she is a long time CIA officer who played a significant role in torture but was well respected by her colleagues. I feel dirty just writing that.
    ProPublica retracted some of their reporting about Haspel; they erroneously claimed that she oversaw the waterboarding of Abu Zubaydah and privately mocked him. In fact Haspel did not oversee the base while Zubaydah was tortured. Zubaydah is the detainee who was waterboarded 83 times and lost an eye in CIA custody. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...nd-waterboardi

    It seems that the NYT reporting that she oversaw the base where/while al-Nashiri was waterboarded stands. Also, as Jose Rodriguez's Chief of Staff Haspel drafted the memo that ordered the destruction of the tapes of Zubaydah's torture. It's unclear whether she lobbied internally for that destruction.

    John Kiriakou, convicted CIA waterboarding whistleblower, has been writing op-eds and doing interviews lobbying against Haspel's appointment.

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