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    Ridiculouspedia - 150 word article covering the basic facts of someone in a fairly high-profile position in NY City who is getting a ton of coverage due to recent events.

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    Rachel Uchitel (born 1975)[1] is a nightclub manager, who has managed the VIP section of "some of the most successful clubs in New York".[2] In 2006, she was the VIP hostess at Tao.[3]

    Uchitel spent five years after college as a news producer in New York for Bloomberg television.[4] She held that job on September 11, 2001, when her fiance, investment banker James Andrew O'Grady, was killed in the September 11 attacks of the World Trade Center.[5] A few days later, she appeared on the front page of the New York Post holding a picture of O'Grady.[6][4] This picture was published worldwide.[7]

    In 2004, she married Wall Street trader Steven Ehrenkranz. Their marriage lasted four months, and was the featured article of the Sunday New York Times Vows section.[8]

    In late 2009, The National Enquirer published a story that alleged that Uchitel had had an affair with Tiger Woods, which she denied.[9] - 4000 word discussion about whether the 150 word article should be deleted or not.
    Spoiler for discussion as of today:
    Marginal WP:BLP. Her most significant coverage came in a tabloid. There is very little information that cannot be covered elsewhere and we do not need this coatrack. Grsz11 04:00, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

    Very Weak Keep Delete. (Changing my vote.) Her biggest claim to fame is was being the target of vicious tabloid gossip, which appears to be totally unfounded, and she appears to be doing everything she can to avoid being slandered. This makes made her notable, but now it also speaks to BLP concerns which would easily warrant deletion. // Internet Esquire (talk) 04:18, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

    Merge with Tiger Woods: She really hasn't done anything notable yet, merge for now.--[[User: Duffy2032|Duffy2032]] (talk) 04:38, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

    * Keep - I started this article, and I started it with multiple, non-trivial, reliable sources that don't discuss the Woods incident. I was actually surprised with all the articles, over about eight years, that mentioned her. She obviously meets the WP:GNG. She probably passed WP:NEWS before the Woods thing happened. At this point, if you want this deleted, you'll have to go beyond policy. The prolonged period of coverage has already happened (almost 10 years), the reliable sources part is done (New York Times before this Woods incident even happened), and the significant coverage is covered (10s of articles just on her are already written). After all our rules were satisfied years ago, now 10s of articles a day start coming out. Done. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 04:55, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

    * Merge with Tiger Woods Delete: I don't really see how a "attention-seeker" tiger "might" have had an affair with is worth of having an article on WP. Back in 2001 she was looking for her fiance Andy O'Grady who perished during the 9/11 incident and thats the most we find about her. I don't see any other relevance..--Warpath (talk) 11:53, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
    o I change my mind. I really can't find anything else worth noting. If the "affair" thing turns out to be true, then a one sentence line could be added to TW's article under 'controversies' but thats about it...--Warpath (talk) 07:41, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Keep Not really possible to merge with the main article Tiger Woods, but still notable enough. If Uchitel is only notable for this particular event, however, a decent compromise might be to create a separate article about the car accident, such as the 2009 Tiger Woods car accident and merge this article into the new article... --Hapsala (talk) 12:30, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Keep When I go to Wikipedia I also like to read about "gossip" that may have a bit of truth in it - specially when it is all over the News and in Google's hottest trends (Remember: Democracy is voting by our feet and going to the ballot. If so many people want to know about a person serve it to your readers and mark it as 'not confirmed' or so). Specially then when all the other gossip magazines are full of stories. That is the moment I turn to Wikipedia and see which stories have been quoted by Wikipedia, because I know that the people who edit Wikipedia come from many different backgrounds and mostly do not work for a tabloid or a businesswire. They do not work for a profit of wikipedia. As a normal user it is very interesting to see the different links that have been reported in Wikipedia about a runup of a gossip theme or another kind of news story. Also: I know that Wikipedia does not have annoying pop-ups or flash or any other of that stuff. I like Wikipedia because it is not run by a professor and his assistants. This should not be merged into Tiger Woods simply because Rachel Uchitel is not Tiger Woods.--zdavatz 13:25, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
    o Comment Sorry, but Wikipedia isn't your tabloid. Grsz11 03:19, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
    * WP:NOT#NEWS Secret account 13:35, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Strongest possible delete Coatrack that fails WP:BLP, all the sources are related to tabloid sources, or source the tabloids. Tabloids aren't reliable coverage. Doesn't even deserve a merge to the Tiger Woods article because of the concern with sources. Secret account 13:35, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
    o Can anyone provide a detailed explanation with quotes from NOT and BLP that lead to a delete decision? I might change my vote. They didn't have anything the last time I looked, but our policies may have changed since then. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 16:27, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
    o WP:BLP1E, the only reason why the article on Uchitel was created was because of her "supposed" relationship with Woods. That's a one event right there. Wikipedia isn't the place for tabloid gossip. Also verifiability plays a major factor. The only sources of the relationship are related to the tabloids. Many times the tabloids twist the facts around to create a story for money. Who wouldn't want to read a story that Tiger Woods is cheating. Because of the nature of the tabloids, they shouldn't be considered as a reliable source for verifiability. As for the picture of Uchitel holding her late fiance picture, it's sad but there are many victims of these attacks with much more news coverage, but no article for a valid reason. Secret account 17:01, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
    + The reason she has an article is because I started it. I admit that I looked for her wiki page because of the TW incident. But, I created the page because there was so much stuff in the google news archive. You'd need a BLP2.5 to delete. She's received really big national coverage twice, plus some other smaller stuff. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 21:21, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Delete. Agree with Secret. This person has done nothing that is reliably notable. Timneu22 (talk) 14:00, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Keep. I was skeptical at first but find there are sufficient sources out there and independent events according notability. There are more sources that can be added, I'll try to do that. Interestingly, I see that the 9/11 pictures of her were published worldwide and I see later references to those picture(s) in german papers, among others. I also take into consideration the good thoughts of zdavatz, who is closer to representing the masses of people who are reading the article and will never comment.--Milowent (talk) 14:23, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Delete, speedily if possible. This is a WP:COATRACK article and an obvious violation of WP:BLP1E. We wouldn't have an article on her if not for the Tiger Woods car accident story, and so we shouldn't have one at all. Robofish (talk) 16:10, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Keep. She's clearly in the process of becoming famous for being famous, and the coverage is just going to keep growing. Merging to Tiger Woods is a particularly bad choice, because it appears to endorse the claim that the rumored affair is fact. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 19:42, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Weak keep - the worse of the worse for being famous for being famous for the past eight years, but meets WP:BARE. Bearian (talk) 22:06, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Keep - agree with Milowent's comments. If she wasn't a household name before, she is now. --Funandtrvl (talk) 22:32, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Keep at least for now. Who knows, the story might blow up into something more substantive. If so, the article has the option of being merged. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:02, 1 December 2009 (UTC) — (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
    o Comment Other way around, it can be recreated if needed. Grsz11 01:46, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Strong keep (3x EC!!) Three newspaper (two NY Times, one LV Review-Journal) reference is enough to pass WP:BIO in my view, plus she has had coverage in the past due to 9/11 (which makes THAT her biggest claim so far, to me), so that in itself means she is notable, even without Tigergate. The article needs to be re-written showing her ties to 9/11, along with any nightclub coverage she has received, with a short mention of Tiger. ArcAngel (talk) 23:06, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Strongest Possible Keep - Merging with Tiger Woods is an awful idea. At this point no one has any proof of any substantial confirmation that they have any type of realistic connection to one another other than some crazy media reports. Not to mention that Rachel Uchitel has been in the news for years and even has a strong connection to 9/11. Rather than deleting the article, people should work to make this article more robust and filled in. - GCV —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:17, 1 December 2009 (UTC) — (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
    * Don't merge to the Tiger Woods page. That's an extraordinarily bad idea. –Juliancolton | Talk 03:15, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
    o Agreed. Delete is the best solution. Grsz11 03:18, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Delete - I'm on the fence about this one due to the current news, but without it, just being mentioned in a few articles doesn't make her notable enough to keep. However, she should not be merged with Tiger Woods, that seems like a BLP violation just waiting to happen. Dayewalker (talk) 03:59, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Keep as per seemingly passing WP:BIO possibly review in about six months. Petepetepetepete (talk) 05:27, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Delete - another BLP1E. Also WP:NOTNEWS and a focal point for BLP nonsense - Allie ❤ 05:31, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Delete - It fails WP:NOT . She hasn't done anything significant (talk) 06:12, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Delete - WP:COATRACK Wizzy…☎ 07:50, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Strong Delete Wikipedia is an encycloedia. That is to say- not the National Enquirer. All we have here is The National Enquirer saying something, and being parrotted elsewhere. TNE is not a WP:RS- in fact, the tabloids make their living by NOT being RS's. That said, while I prefer Delete my second choice would be to Keep. IMO, Merging to Tiger Woods is the worst possible option, as then we'd have two WP:BLP violations in two different articles- making the problem here much, much worse on a much more visible article. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 08:28, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Delete per WP:BLP1E, notability outside recent events is insufficient, and I don't want to see celebrity gossip on Wikipedia. Unlike Wikipedia, the tabloids can consult their lawyers before publishing contentious material about living persons. Cassandra 73 (talk) 12:31, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Delete - Most comments appear to be WP:INTERESTING, WP:NOHARM, WP:WAX, WP:VALINFO, WP:ILIKEIT, WP:ITEXISTS, WP:INTHENEWS, WP:IKNOWIT, WP:INHERITED, or WP:EVERYTHING. The plain matter of fact is that WP:ONEEVENT means that this person is NOT notable enough for their own article. Merge with Tiger Woods, or delete, and be done with it. IF this becomes a bigger event, it can always be recreated, but right now it needs to be removed. --Fbifriday (talk) 15:59, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

    * Comment I should say most comments in support of the article being kept. Sorry. --Fbifriday (talk) 16:01, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

    * Actually, most of the deletes are ignoring that she was notable before the woods incident. I imagine they haven't looked at the huge articles, which are currently only used to support singe sentences, that came out before the TW incident. - Peregrine Fisher (talk)

    * I looked at all the links in the article before I commented, I didn't think it was enough. I would have said delete if a similar article based on the pre-Tiger Woods sources had been at AFD a month or so ago. Cassandra 73 (talk) 16:41, 2 December 2009 (UTC)(contribs) 16:17, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

    * Comment I would like to point out that if the 9/11 photo was notable enough, or anything else she did was notable enough, she would have had an article well before the alleged affair came out. She did not, which means the only reason this article was created was to cover the supposed affair, and now people are attempting to give legitimacy to the tabloid journalism by finding every single little article she was ever mentioned in to attempt to prove her notability and keep her article. The matter of fact is that the only reason she could be notable is the affair, and that is only one event, which does not establish her notability. Also, as the affair story fails WP:NOT#NEWS, and IF the 9/11 is valid, then it still fails WP:ONEEVENT. --Fbifriday (talk) 23:22, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

    * Her earlier notability happened when WP had about 100,000 pages, so no, she wan't one of the 100,000 most important subjects in the world at that time. Notability is determined by sources, and the article currently has enough sources pre TW incident, that the TW incident isn't needed at at all. As far as every single little article, there are 10s of articles pre-Woods, and 100s since. Just say you don't like the article if that's how you feel. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 23:35, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

    * My opinion on the matter does not matter at all, because I actually understand the arguments to avoid in an AFD discussion. My main argument for the deletion is in the last sentence of my last comment. The affair story fails WP:NOT#NEWS, and IF the 9/11 is valid enough for inclusion, then it still fails WP:ONEEVENT. "News coverage can be useful source material for encyclopedic topics, but not all events warrant an encyclopedia article of their own. Routine news coverage of such things as announcements, sports, and tabloid journalism are not sufficient basis for an article." This is tabloid journalism. There is no noteworthy aspects of this story other than the fact it's Tiger Woods. Thousands of people lost loved ones in 9/11, and millions have had a mistress/been mistresses. She is probably not the only one who has done both either. Also, you can not use the "Her earlier notability was early in wikipedia history, so she wasn't included" argument, as that would be like saying 9/11 itself was notable when wikipedia was new, so it didn't have an article. An article can be created later if they were truly notable. Think about the millions of people, places, things, etc, that ceased to exist before wikipedia was even thought of, but they still have an article. Because they are notable. What they did was notable. What they were was notable. If she was notable for ANYTHING before the alleged affair story broke, she would have had an article. The matter of fact is that she was not notable before, and as such, the article is based off of one event. --Fbifriday (talk) 04:37, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

    * If you believe that lack of an article indicates lack of notability, then we'll leave it at that. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 04:52, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

    * Delete more BLP nonsense. She's notable (maybe) only for a tabloid alleged affair. Mention on the Woods article, if at all.--Scott Mac (Doc) 16:31, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
    o Did you look at the refs? - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 16:37, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
    + Yes.--Scott Mac (Doc) 16:42, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Delete Nothing here that indicates any notability whatsoever. Just because I know someone who once took a picture of someone who was on TV doesn't mean there should be a BLP article about me. Sorry - per all the reasons listed above - not notable = delete. (see WP:N and WP:GNG for details.) — Ched : ? 17:09, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Delete notability isn't inherited nor is it viral: allegedly sleeping with someone notable doesn't make you notable or Wilt Chamberlain alone gave us 20,000 new notables. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:05, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Keep notability can arise very quickly and for strange reasons. This person has reached the Wikipedia threshold for notability. Rreagan007 (talk) 20:02, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Keep -- notable person. Keepscases (talk) 20:10, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Keep Whatever we may think about this person, she is notable. Even before "Tigergate", she was featured on the frontpage of one of the leading newspapers in New York. She has worked for several years as a tv producer at Bloomberg. The allegation about her affair with Woods is also notable, and it is actually irrelevant whether the allegations are correct or not. Finally, the article seems well sourced with references to serious media such as The New York Times, Time Magazine etc. (talk) 21:27, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
    o Sigh this is why WP:BLP needs an makeover, the sources are linked to gossip, it's not the NYT etc, there are no NYT articles about her as a subject, there's no way she's notable. Being a producer for a television station isn't notable WP:INHERITED. Secret account 21:38, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
    + What to you call this? - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 21:43, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
    # That's one of those feel-good stories that almost all newspapers and tabloids such as People Magazine has every week. That source doesn't claim notability of the subject. If we have articles on every feel good story covered on a newspaper, we would have so much BLP problems it's not even a joke. There would be millions of articles on argruably non-notable people. Secret account 21:48, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
    * I see. You should have just said you didn't like the refs, not that they don't exist. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 23:06, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Delete having an alleged affair with someone notable does not make you notable. MrMurph101 (talk) 22:01, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Delete Not news, or more appropriately, not tabloid news. Will the people who would like Wikipedia to be a real encyclopedia please raise their hands? nableezy - 22:17, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Delete 9/11 coverage doesn't really satisfy "significant coverage" requirements, and the National Enquirer is hardly reliable, generally speaking. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 22:22, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

    And hell no to the merge to Tiger Woods suggestion. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 22:24, 2 December 2009 (UTC)


    Front cover stories distributed worldwide, but I respect you looking at the sources and forming an opinion. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 23:08, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
    What about [1]? If it weren't for Woods, I'd think this would be enough (added to to NYT article and the other more minor sources). She was notable in her field pre-Woods. Hobit (talk) 06:30, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

    * Strong Delete Absolutely not notable outside of Tiger. Coverage is not about this non-notable woman, it's about Woods's affair. Reywas92Talk 00:14, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

    There are so many non-notabilities at Wikipedia. In your opinion, Tiger's wife, as well as tens of thousands of orther non-notabilities, should also be deleted? Or did Elin Nordegren accomplish anything "notable" apart from being Tiger's wife? --Hapsala (talk) 00:27, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

    Yes. Its about WP:BLP. He has taken a hit with this one. Wizzy…☎

    * Delete Per WP:BLP1E and WP:NOTNEWS. Warrah (talk) 01:23, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Delete as a coatrack article for describing BLP speculation. Notability is not transferable; you don't become notable by sleeping with someone notable or by having a personal story related to a large-scale notable event. Being a news producer is not inherently notable. - BanyanTree 01:28, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Delete – the above reasons sum it up nicely. Coatrack, one event, and WP:NOTNEWS. MuZemike 03:10, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Keep, notability seems well-established by the sources. Everyking (talk) 04:34, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Delete, per Bradjamesbrown -Reconsider! 04:36, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Delete per nom and WP:BLP. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:01, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Keep She was notable pre-Woods, she's notable post-Woods. [2] and similar articles are enough even without Woods. Hobit (talk) 05:50, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Delete She's never been notable, and even if she did sleep with Tiger, that's not enough to make her notable. WP isn't a tabloid. --Muboshgu (talk) 12:47, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
    o Could you explain why sources like [3] don't meet WP:N? Hobit (talk) 13:00, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

    * Strong keep I think the Tiger thing is enough by itself, and she has several other notable events besides. And Wikipedia is starting to look ridiculous with a delete discussion on every news-related page. Binarybits (talk) 13:41, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

    * Delete. Given the recent coverage, if that's all there was it would be a speedy 1E issue, in my opinion. Discarding all the Tiger Woods hearsay, there are basically four sources. I don't believe "No Dress, No Vows, and Less Status in Grief" meets the requirement of significant coverage in that the subject is profiled, but it is not specifically about her. The "Vows: Rachel Uchitel and Steven Ehrenkranz" I am discarding as fluff; I know that the Washington Post's nuptials section are essentially solicitations for puff pieces which is anecdotally a widespread practice, so the fact that they appear does not speak to their notability. All that leaves is the BlackBookMag ref, which I will agree is significant enough. Ultimately, however, the lack of several of these type of source plus BLP concerns lead me to recommend outright deletion. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 14:01, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

    Wow, there's an awful lot of POV going on here. A reliable source is a reliable source. We don't get to exclude subjects because we think reliable sources shouldn't have covered something. And I don't see anything about "hearsay" or "puff pieces" in the WP:RS. Binarybits (talk) 15:12, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

    I've got plenty of reliable sources that have blatantly incorrect information, do I use those sources? A reliable source means that it may be used for verification, but editors must use their good judgement as well. In this case, it's soft journalism that I would never use as proof that a subject was notable. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 20:02, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
    There are lots more sources from before the Woods incident. I mean, look at all these. This isn't an AfD where people are basing their deletes on sources, obviously, so I only added enough to easily pass 1E, BLP, and NOTE. If I thought someone might change their mind based on the addition of sources, I would have added more. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 16:02, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

    * Delete. No notability whatsoever apart from the Tiger Woods controversy. The article makes no effort to assert notability, and obviously the Sept. 11 stuff does not maker her notable. --JohnnyB256 (talk) 16:07, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

    * Delete - Obviously not notable outside of Tiger Woods. --TorsodogTalk 16:28, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
    * comment I do think this link shows that coverage of her predates the Wood's thing by years. Hobit (talk) 16:30, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Delete - standard BLP concerns for these situations. Ottava Rima (talk) 17:43, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
    * Delete Notability is not inherited + clearly WP:BLP1E. At best we can mention her in Woods related article, but lets not fool ourselves into thinking that we can write an encyclopedic biographical article. Abecedare (talk) 18:38, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
    o Have you looked at the sources? They have VASTLY more biographical information than we have for 90%+ of our BLPs. Hobit (talk) 19:22, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
    + I did look at the article and the sources. I don't consider, "appeared on the front page of the New York Post holding a picture of O'Grady. This picture was published worldwide." type trivia to be encyclopedic, biographical, or notable. I realize that not everyone will agree; that's the reason to have these discussions to see where policy based consensus lies. Abecedare (talk) 19:29, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

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    Heh, I remember trying to get Graffes accepted to wikipedia, damn standards.

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    Here is the biggest tragedy:

    The result was no consensus to keep, default to delete.
    That's so retarded. The default should be keep. Onus should be on the deletionists to make a solid case for deletion.

    So fucking retarded.

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    The Wikipedia threshold for notability is a lot lower than most deletion-happy editors seem to think:

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    ^This page is comedy gold.

    My favorite is the edit war for Pavlova(Food)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merrick ap'Milandra View Post
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    Funny site, my favorite is:

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    I'm enjoying the edit war on whether Maryland is northern or southern. It even gets to the point where you have the Confederates claiming that Maryland has mild winters and the Yankees claiming it has severe winters.

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    I snuck a self-promoting line into a wiki article once and it's been there for 3 years now. go me
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    If it is so rediculous, then why did you create an account just to lobby to delete the article, and all 3 of your edits were on that page?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merrick ap'Milandra View Post

    ^This page is comedy gold.

    My favorite is the edit war for Pavlova(Food)
    Wow, my favorite is the arbitration committee's ruling on date delinking.
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