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    Re: Dear Users. Read Before Posting.

    Maledict,

    Tone, or "style" is important because it reflects the underlying attitude and approach to moderation that affects everyone. If this is really just an anomaly, that's great. But if it really was just an anomaly, I don't think everyone would have taken me so seriously either. The point wasn't to get the post changed, since the post itself wasn't a big deal. The point also wasn't to attack Mdar. It doesn't really matter who posted it. The point is to raise awareness, and that's it.

    I thought Mdar's post was funny but arrogant so I threw it back in his face. I got modded, whatever. So I spent 30 seconds and made a one-sentence response to replace the deleted content. I avoided complaining about the deletion and focused on my original concern. I did not attack Mdar I attacked his post. Mdar has not responded, and I have respected that decision. I have not addressed him since the initial post. Had others not come to his defense, I would not have pressed the case and the thread would have ended.

    I can respond out of proportion, if you'd like to see the difference.

    I can do open field day, if you want to see the difference.

    I can hound people, if you want to see the difference.

    My point doesn't have to stand, but if I believe in it I'm not going to back down just because people are upset. I will be respectful, honest, and straightforward, I hope it is comforting that I have not resorted to name-calling and insults and non-sequitor images of ermine sex or something, but I will only consider backing down under the following conditions: it is too upsetting for people to handle, someone has a better point, or I get bored.

    Mdar's clearly not intending to actually insult folks (unlike say, telling him to go **** himself),
    That is not clear to me. In fact, intent is a secondary concern in this case. If Mdar wanted to address my reaction, he could have done so at any point.

    but folks would rather argue the point and cry mod foul than actually get the thing changed?
    If you slap someone in the face, you can't un-slap them. Changing the post is really not the issue. It's more important that it be understood why it was a mistake than for it to change.

    You just get the impression that folsk aren't really bothered by the post, it's just another tiny point to attack and complain about. Because who on *earth* thinks this style of posting get's the change you want?
    The change I want is for as many people to understand the problem as possible. I think my approach is the most effective one I could have taken.

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    Re: Dear Users. Read Before Posting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grindel View Post
    There was a running joke that the target of that thread had a sister.
    Ibliss's sister? That bitch is a HO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vdou View Post
    When people stop acting like children, they will stop being treated as such.
    Who's acting? And where the hell is my sippee cup?

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    This is so fucking stupid.
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    I totally disagree. Its dumb, not stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunal View Post
    I totally disagree. Its dumb, not stupid.
    I think your correction is condescending and I'm personally offended. You hurt my feeling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vdou View Post
    I think your correction is condescending and I'm personally offended. You hurt my feeling.
    You're lucky he didn't chop your feeling off with a knife while you were asleep!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ordith View Post
    You're lucky he didn't chop your feeling off with a knife while you were asleep!
    I was emotionally castrated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vdou View Post
    I was emotionally castrated.
    You enjoyed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DmitrytheWizzy View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vdou View Post
    I was emotionally castrated.
    I'm going to punch both of you.
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    Re: Dear Users. Read Before Posting.

    Mdar, please don't lock threads just because you can't see a point to them. When there really isn't a point to a thread it will die on its own.

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    Re: Dear Users. Read Before Posting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vdou View Post
    This is so fucking stupid.
    No, it's not.

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    Re: Dear Users. Read Before Posting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deabn View Post
    Mdar, please don't lock threads just because you can't see a point to them. When there really isn't a point to a thread it will die on its own.
    Experience has taught me differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DmitrytheWizzy View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikeya View Post
    I'm going to punch both of you.
    Right in the donut!

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    I can respond out of proportion, if you'd like to see the difference.

    I can do open field day, if you want to see the difference.

    I can hound people, if you want to see the difference.
    "Explaining tone" to someone and then sounding like a douche on purpose makes you sound like a serious asshole. Just pointing out the problems with tone in your post.
    Put witty saying here.

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    Ive changed my mind about my imaginary sister being a target. I have contacted a lawyer and if its not removed I will be filing a lawsuit directed towards Graffe and the current moderation team since they are in charge. Youve been warned.

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    It was your sister's lawyer, I bet.

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    It is like you guys take the old saying "How much worse can it get?" as a challenge. Whoever thought it was a good idea to have a bunch of Wizards communicate with each other needs their head examined.

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    Re: Dear Users. Read Before Posting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ibliss View Post
    Ive changed my mind about my imaginary sister being a target. I have contacted a lawyer and if its not removed I will be filing a lawsuit directed towards Graffe and the current moderation team since they are in charge. Youve been warned.
    Quite obviously we need a new set of rules that covers imaginary people.

    And pet rocks.

    You should be imaginatively banned. Prepare for the lobotomy.
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    Re: Dear Users. Read Before Posting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gnizmo View Post
    Whoever thought it was a good idea to have a bunch of Wizards communicate with each other needs their head examined.
    Win.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ibliss View Post
    Ive changed my mind about my imaginary sister being a target. I have contacted a lawyer and if its not removed I will be filing a lawsuit directed towards Graffe and the current moderation team since they are in charge. Youve been warned.
    I'm afraid there's already precedence against you in the SCOTUS - "The State of Virginia vs. Yo Momma" was quite clear in its ruling.

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