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    Quote Originally Posted by milaru View Post
    No, he wasn't. You however weren't for no good reason, other than the mods feeling like removing trolling compares to a lynching.
    Water under the bridge... I forgive and forget... you should too... better living through anger management and the use of capital letters.

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    Re: Forum Rules (24/03/2009)

    Yeah, listen to Dmitry, he knows all about how anger can fuck up your relations with other people. Look how he went from being fairly well-liked around here to being widely considered a megadouche just because he couldn't keep a hold on his temper. His personality never changed, but public perception of it changed a lot. I think that's because when people get angry enough, their carefully-constructed masks of geniality slip off and people see the Borderline Personality Disorder hiding underneath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alikat Astrae View Post
    Yeah, listen to Dmitry, he knows all about how anger can fuck up your relations with other people. Look how he went from being fairly well-liked around here to being widely considered a megadouche just because he couldn't keep a hold on his temper. His personality never changed, but public perception of it changed a lot. I think that's because when people get angry enough, their carefully-constructed masks of geniality slip off and people see the Borderline Personality Disorder hiding underneath.
    yawn.... you couldn't get me to lose my temper in a thousand years.

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    Re: Forum Rules (24/03/2009)

    Perception is all that matters.

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    Re: Forum Rules (24/03/2009)

    So.

    Dmitry going insane, taking a dump on the boards, and specifically on the chest of both mod teams is peachy and you guys seem pretty amped to forget the whole thing.

    Zedd removing himself and saying something remarkably stupid and you guys are off re-writing rules to apply after-the-fact.

    Neat.
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    Re: Forum Rules (24/03/2009)

    Quote Originally Posted by Apallohadas View Post
    So.



    Zedd removing himself and saying something remarkably stupid and you guys are off re-writing rules to apply after-the-fact.
    Not sure what this refers to.

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    Re: Forum Rules (24/03/2009)

    Quote Originally Posted by DmitrytheWizzy View Post
    yawn.... you couldn't get me to lose my temper in a thousand years.
    Don't worry, I have no intention of trying, I don't play mind games with sociopaths, I consider them inadequately armed for any battle of wits.

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    Re: Forum Rules (24/03/2009)

    Zedd removing himself and saying something remarkably stupid and you guys are off re-writing rules to apply after-the-fact.
    Actually, the only reason Zedd was even brought up is because he did the same stupid thing Ialnyien did, threaten legal action against the boards or another poster. Preventing headaches is what this rule is about, not necessarily fear of an actual suit.

    Do you really think Ianlyien has the ability to sue Graffe's? Let me just ask you this? Who would he sue and how would he perfect service?
    He never said he would sue the site, he said he was going to sue Milaru for slander. Or something.

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    Re: Forum Rules (24/03/2009)

    The new moderators on this forum have so far shown that they are useless.

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    Re: Forum Rules (24/03/2009)

    Thanks for your opinion. The group hug is to your left.

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    Re: Forum Rules (24/03/2009)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilumbik View Post
    The new moderators on this forum have so far shown that they are useless.
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    Re: Forum Rules (24/03/2009)

    Isn't that from a sign posted over a urinal in a bar? "We aim to please, so you aim too, please!"

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    Re: Forum Rules (24/03/2009)

    Quote Originally Posted by Layonya View Post
    Actually, the only reason Zedd was even brought up is because he did the same stupid thing Ialnyien did, threaten legal action against the boards or another poster.
    Which of these happened first? Zedd or Ialyien?
    Preventing headaches is what this rule is about, not necessarily fear of an actual suit.
    I do not believe this, and I find it hard to think that you feel that it's true.

    Logically, the board should engage in a certain amount of CYA, but don't pour syrup on shit and call it pancakes. That's just not tasty.

    If Zedd's going to be banned, let him be banned, but don't make up a rule to retroactively apply.
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    Re: Forum Rules (24/03/2009)

    The rule was never about Zedd. He threatened to sue after he demanded all his posts be removed and his account banned. He was obliged. Ianlyien then threatened to sue Milaru (cause, ya know, it worked so well before!), and got banned.

    The reasoning behind not having the rule there before was that the people in charge at the time figured it was common sense - you threaten the board, you get banned. Apparently, though, there is a need to have this in black and white.

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    Re: Forum Rules (24/03/2009)

    Didn't Muddvz do something like that before Zedd OR Ianlyen did, and got banned for it? He didn't just threaten to go to Mosso, he actually sent Mosso a complaint that he CCed to one of the Mods.

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    Re: Forum Rules (24/03/2009)

    Quote Originally Posted by HoranafofPrexus View Post
    What can I say, I aim to please!
    You are the exception.

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    Re: Forum Rules (24/03/2009)

    Quote Originally Posted by Alikat Astrae View Post
    Didn't Muddvz do something like that before Zedd OR Ianlyen did, and got banned for it? He didn't just threaten to go to Mosso, he actually sent Mosso a complaint that he CCed to one of the Mods.
    Yes. He was offended I told the boards the proper way to smoke some herb.

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    Re: Forum Rules (24/03/2009)

    So the rule is really about Ianlyien, since he didn't go after the board itself the way Zedd threatened and thus wasn't covered by the old "threaten the board" rule. Correct?

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    Re: Forum Rules (24/03/2009)

    Oh, and on the rule itself: I agree with giving the boot to someone who threatens legal action. Even if the legal action is somehow justified, that's not the sort of thing Graffe's should be dragged into. However, will we be seeing proper Halls of Mediation threads set up telling the rest of the board that Soandso is banned, violation of rule X? Ianlyien was outright banned and this is really the first any of us have heard of why, and the fact that it can be done based on material that the rest of the board can't see and can only be appealed after six months does make me a bit uneasy.

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    Re: Forum Rules (24/03/2009)

    Quote Originally Posted by Maledict View Post
    This is an update to the rules. It's short and sweet.

    Any threat of legal action against the board, the mod team, or other posters on the board will result in banning.

    It is absolutely a no go for the board, under any circumstances. We shouldn't have to say this, as every other board in existance would do it automatically, but to repeat - banning, straight up. We are not subjecting members to RL harassment and being blackmailed by threats of legal action just because someone doesn't like the contents of a conversation.
    I'd amend the rule to say any real-life threat against the board, the mod team, or other posters is against the rules. That eliminates a gigantic class of bullshit that hasn't ever proved to be beneficial.

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