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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/civil%20warQuote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
Sorry, I can address the rest of your post in a moment, but in what way is Ukraine vs Russia a civil war?Quote:
Civil war: a war between opposing groups of citizens of the same country
I mean, your actual phrasing "Ukraine vs Russia" names 2 distinct countries, which contradicts the plain definition of "civil war" so I'm genuinely curious what you mean by that.
Zarb
Ukraine and Russia...same thing, bar most North and Western parts (mixture there of Poland "Ruthenia", Hungary, Romania)
You do know that "Ukraine" in Russian literally means "Borderlands", hm?
Ukraine as a political entity was a fiction created by the nutbags in charge of the Soviet Union
Crimea has an older and complex history
but currently it's really mostly ethnic Russians like it or not, fighting ethnic Russians, controlled by nationalist/Nazi extremists funded by the West
What is the language Zelensky spoke until he learned Ukrainian? oh yeah...Russian.
Who's killing each other? mostly ethnic Russians, note the commissars rounding up meat victims for the grinder hardly touched the far North West, so it's mostly Russians killing Russians, and as well as ethnic Hungarians
Which is ok with the racist psychos in charge.
Anyway, this genocidal debacle will end September/October as Ukraine is collapsing as the casualties are so extreme
Unless of course NATO intervenes in which case high risk of is all getting a "Strontium90 Sunbath" :p
Vey sick of the denial of reality, the Ukrainians are massively outgunned, during the fall of Avdiivka they admitted they got hit by over 100 FAB glide bombs in that town in a few days
What do you think 250kg, 500 and 1500kg aerial bombs would do in that situation, just tickle a few defenders?
To harken back to Everquest: the Russians run "AoE parties"
Again the Russians are NOT fucking comical Stormtroopers who can't shoot straight, or bestial dumb orcs
They do not do stupid wasteful Western mass bombing campaigns on civilians or "broad arrow offensives" etc etc
Nor do they do the "Meat wave" tactics the West's PR claims they do, there is NO evidence for it and absolutely not what the Russians want, they understand war in ways Americans will NEVER grasp...demographics is part of it, they don't' want to lose much of their population once again
It's a horribly effective, efficient "grind"
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Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
I assume you would describe Scotland as a political entity as a fiction as well? If England were to invade Scotland (again), well that would just be a civil war and everyone else should just stay out of it, right? Particularly if England were to claim that Scotland was riddled with Nazis and they just had to invade to fight all those Nazis.
I mean, to claim any differently would be hypocrisy on a massive scale.
And you're not a complete hypocrite, are you?
Surely you're not.
Surely.
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My country, as an actual nation, has existed for around 1200 years
As I've noted before, even though I wanted the British Empire driven out of power over my country, I refused to support the terrorism like the Provo IRA
Murderous nationalism like the Provos, or the Banderites, is a disaster for everyone, as well as mad
Thou has drunk the Kool Aid and may get a Nuclear Sunburn :p
Again, Ukraine = borderlands
It's full of Nazis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
Ukraine existed before Russia
Kyiv is older than Moscow
This civil war talk feels like an attempt to diminish Ukraine's right to self-determination. If the majority of Ukrainians wanted to be part of Russia they already would be by now.
You obviously missed the memo about the break away republics who later voted to rejoin Russia, and the massacres of their civilians by the Nazis/Ultranationalists.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wool
And meanwhile... COPE by you lot, as the the truth of the war and the lies by the West emerges
As Ukraine is slowly but ground into fucking meat for the glory of your egos and the corporations
as usual: massacre for lies and profit and you lot SWALLOW this shit EVERY FUCKING TIME :(
Lindsey "slimy rat fuck" Graham let the cat out of the bag a few weeks ago
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On the Nazi issues: Azov scum cause outrage when they visited Auschwitz, wearing T shirts with Nazi slogans
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Again, this was has NOTHING to do with "Freedom & Democracy"
JPMorgan, BlackRock etc have bought up more Ukrainian land than Russia has captured, VAST tracts of land
but they are pissed and pushing war because Russia got the best mineral resources, and the bankers etc need a "win" so they can "rebuild" the country for vasty over inflated prices and shitty work, see Iraq
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...os-2024-01-16/
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Ukraine started with a population of 41 million
after the breakaways and invasion, the Kiev controlled areas have a population of 28 million
Russia's population: 150 million
Russia is the world's largest country, it has the world's greatest depth and kind of mineral resources
They are directly on Ukraine's border, thus have short and deep logistics routes
So, anyone with a clue knew from day one Ukraine had NO CHANCE of winning, but as usual, the West pissed their lives away! :(
NO the Russians do NOT make "meat wave attacks" there ha never been any evidence for that
btu there's plenty for the Ukraine leadership basically do similar to their people
they finally admitted that the insanity of the "Krinky" offensive cost about 1,000 lives...you can bet it was a shit ton more than that
Crossing a major river, into swamp lands, with no cover...
they got slaughtered, pointlessly
Sigh
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And if Russia were, for some reason, to invade Scotland with its 5 million inhabitants, you would just roll over and show your belly, right? Tell all your countrymen to do the same?
Surrender.
Give up.
Let them take your homes from you.
Maybe they would institute whatever archaic traditions they please.
You would just let them do that.
Right?
I obviously can't speak for him, but that is the impression I get. He thinks Putin will nuke anyone who defies him.
55% of Scots voted to remain as part of the UK. The 45% did not splinter off into an independent nation. If anywhere close to a similar number wanted to rejoin Russia then Ukraine would not have been able to resist for two years, support from the West or not. Nothing we can do can make them fight this hard. They are clearly doing it because the majority values independence. And they have said as much many times.Quote:
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I've also seen no evidence that a majority of even the small isolated regions wanted to join Russia before the invasion. And I'm certainly not impressed by the Russian sham elections that happened later. What a joke.
Hell, I'm not even sure most Russians want this war either. But that's what gulags are for, eh comrade?
This is certainly a gross headline, but what I have a feeling where this underlying message has in it is that in order to protect our export/import operations for this task will involve our military being deployed to protect its trade route.Quote:
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If this is actually the case, then this would be one of the safest attritions that the united states could perform to insist that they mean business against the stance of Russian occupation of parts of Ukraine.
I do not approve of it.
Zelenskyy seems to have intentionally kept that as a lever to negotiate with Trump with, if that's what he has to do to keep US support in the Trump administration then I wish him well since us abandoning Ukraine would be the start of a bad path for Europe.
If you are Ukraine I can only imagine the level of despair they've been dealing with since Trump's election victory.
Side bonus for the Red Army is hampering the open source efforts to gather data to produce as accurate as possible picture of the causalities of the Russian army. They often visit gravesites, check obituaries and the likes.