The latter. Immigration was the gateway issue.
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The latter. Immigration was the gateway issue.
last I checked, Wanting the IDF to stop deliberately targeting and wholesale murdering civilians is not hating the jews.
Ali and Silver must be pen pals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nerkahia
Yup, but like, since the US and UK political system got taken over by the Zionist psychopaths in last ew decades, one dare not criticize the evil bastards.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilanFyretracker
You can tell who your "Overlords" are, by who you are not allowed to criticize
Extremists of any kind suck, Zionists are the same insane monsters who caused the destruction of Israel and Jewish culture 2000 years ago,
You can't blame the Romans for starting insanely stupid terrorism and genocide FOUR bloody times
I can admit it was Scottish "Nobles" who fucked us over the most, not the English
I never wanted terrorism (PRrvo IRA were mruderous zealot cunts, who were a stian in the efforts of the totally legit desire for a Free Ireland...you always get psychos, sigh)
And I sure as hell didn't want all otu war or freakin' genocide of the English people! they were fucked over, too, actually Londoners got it the worst though few seem to realize that, their communities have been utterly destroyed :(
Now, fair trials and mass public executions for the convicted "Nobs"...that's another matter, but we cannot go back in time and it's far too late for that now, we are all proper fucked :(
Yes, in general a majority of those who dare call themselves "Liberal" nowadays are nothing of the sort, they are just cowardly bastards who are too gutless to express their hatreds etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Alikat Astrae
The xnophbia etc of the GOP/Tories is obvious, but the Left has warped into a nightmare too but won't admit it
I have warned for long and weary that the "political class" and media of the USA and West in general, had been specifically increasing partisanship to utterly dangerous levels until it has become Sectarianism. :(
"US OR THEM, KILL 'EM ALL!" that's' what it's become, and those extremes push weak minded folk into supporting any madness their leaders suggest
And "weak mind" has nothing to do with "intellectual capacity"
As for Gaza...are you THAT fucking clueless?!
Israeli, Jewish witnesses by the score have come forward, as well as physical evidence, to prove that most of the Jewish dead that day were killed by their own fucking military!!
The IDF of today are kill happy racist psychos, as photo evidence PROVE (do I have to post that horrific shit, hm?)
and the IDF oeprate under an actual official policy to kill their own people to stop them being held hostage
Ergo those BASTARDS massacred their own people, that open air festival was annihilated by a ISRAEL helicopter gunships and cannon fire, the Hamas sods sure as FUCK were not carrying ATGMs and 30mm cannons!
...a memorial...and who committed that atrocity back then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninetoes
Oh let me see...some of 'em were the Ukrainian Nazis you say don't' exist.
And what type of war criminal was applauded by the Canadian Parliament?
and as has been now proven, Trudeau knew the man in question was an SS scumbag, but blamed the Speaker to escape like the cowardly shit he is.
Meanwhile....
So Macron tells folk not to be cowards and to fight Russia! The guy who ran from the farmers like a chicken....
The Czech leader and the Polish Speaker of the Parliament now wants to get in on that madness...
I have news for you: the Russians have already blown to fuck the French en masse a few weeks ago, and now they just did it to the British in Odessa.
Ukraine is getting annihilated on the battlefield, it's generals are switching sides,etc
Sso as usual, the West go for a "media stunt", one of which got 30+ of the Ukranians' special forces butchered pointlessly trying to plant a flag on a sandbar off Crimea, then they sunk a patrol boat (carried out under British command and with Uk drones)...none of which changes the military situation on the ground one bit...for a MEDIA scoop
are any of you crazy, ignorant enough to think the Russians are cowards and won't blow NATO troops to living fuck if they step foot en masse inside Ukraine, hm?
FUCK AROUND AND FIND OUT, WITH NUKES!
No, more like Nietzsche, Pratchett, Huxley and Hunter S Thompson, amongst others :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Bonlainy
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There is a special place in Hell for folk who make puns like that, you do know that, right? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Delores Mulva
That is exactly what the German officers and others have publicly exposed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zarbonius
You have failed Reality Comprehension 101, Zarb!
YOU have been struck for 32,000hp damage, returning to Qeynos.... :p
Citation. Please.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
Silverblade-T-E. *WAVE* Over here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nerkahia
Asking out of curiosity...
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Originally Posted by Nerkahia
Meanwhile in Canada....
https://www.voiceofeurope.com/monume...kville-canada/
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In Oakville, Canada, a monument commemorating the Ukrainian SS Division “Galicia” has been demolished.
The memorial, situated in a Ukrainian cemetery since 1988, honored fighters from the Brody region who served in 1944.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...luftwaffe-leakQuote:
Originally Posted by Zarbonius
The full transcript goes into more detail like explaining how the Brits use a specific type of vehicle to hide the movements of the missiles to airfields etc BY British troopsQuote:
During the call, Gerhartz and his subordinates discussed the chancellor’s refusal to donate the weapons, how it might be possible to get around it and what issues were at stake. In doing so, the Germans discussed how Britain worked closely with Ukraine in deploying Storm Shadow missiles.
“When it comes to mission planning,” the German commander said, “I know how the English do it, they do it completely in reachback. They also have a few people on the ground, they do that, the French don’t.”
Reachback is a military term to describe how intelligence, equipment and support from the rear is brought forward to units deployed on the front, but Gerhartz suggested the British approach was deeper, involving direct support on site.
Downing Street had confirmed the presence of a “small number of personnel” in Ukraine on Tuesday last week, although it did not spell out all tasks they were undertaking due to concerns that any potential combat involvement could be considered as escalatory by Moscow.
and note, it's well know the British Navy and SBS are behind the naval drone strikes on Russian ships and were based in Odessa...and then Zelensky in his egotism went to give them all medals and the Greek PM was with him for part of the day
soon as he'd left the building, they got blown to fuck by an Iskander strike and multiple NATO helicopters were flown in from Romania to evac the survivors
Afterwards when Zelensky etc tried claiming the Russians had attempt to kill him, the Russian military posted a drone pic from last year showing one of Zelensky's motorcades...they have no interest in killing him and never have, cause he's a fucking wonderful aid to Russian victory
"Never interrupt an enemy when he's making a mistake!" :p
Set up in 2016 that and other things are legitimate reasons for war. You know, a real casus belliQuote:
Originally Posted by Nerkahia
and you cannot claim the New York Times is "Russian disinformation"
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/w...ussia-war.html
if America had been provoked like this by say Mexico, it would have nuked Mexico City not merely invaded
I'm not seeing what you're claiming there, Silver. Maybe if you could link the full transcript, that would be helpful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
Sorry, but what are you talking about? Just a single link to a news story about this would be helpful here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
I may have my dates mixed up, but would that be before or after Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine?Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
Zarb
Fromt he article, once again
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"When it comes to mission planning,” the German commander said, “I know how the English do it, they do it completely in reachback.
They also have a few people on the ground, they do that, the French don’t.”
also
https://eng.obozrevatel.com/section-...0-03-2024.html
The French and Czechs are talking about sending troops into Moldova and then to garrison Odessa to prevent Russia taking itQuote:
Polish Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski said that some Western countries have already sent their military to Ukraine. He refused to name these countries.
He also added that he supports the initiative of French President Emmanuel Macron to send NATO troops to Ukraine as this "will disrupt the scenario planned by Russia." Sikorski made this statement during a discussion in the Polish parliament dedicated to the 25th anniversary of Poland's accession to the North Atlantic Alliance, Focus reports.
According to the Polish Foreign Minister, "some countries" have already sent their military to Ukraine.
"Unlike other politicians, I will not list these countries," Sikorski added.
The head of Polish diplomacy welcomed Macron's initiative to send a NATO contingent to Ukraine.
"I support the initiative of President Emmanuel Macron," Sikorski said.
He called the French president's idea an "inventive move" that would disrupt the scenario of the war in Ukraine planned by Russia.
which is the kind of thing Putin has warned will result in direct conflict and annihilation
it's a crazy plan since the roads from Moldova and Romania ot Odessa could be very easily blocked or annihilated due to the terrain, very limited paths and bridges and starting a war at the end of such a long logistics route etc is mad
Zelensky, OdessaQuote:
Originally Posted by Zarbonius
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...ve/ar-BB1jsc79
the Russians could have whacked him any time in last few years
the strange way NATO helicopters, medics etc went in after the Odessa strike and rumours strongly support that, similar to the annihilation of French "mercenaries" last month, the Russians have had enough and took out the British special forces who were running the naval drone strikes.
Now hold on a second. Because what you're claiming the article says is not what it says.
Let's review:
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Originally Posted by Zarbonius
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Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
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Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
"A few people on the ground" is NOT the same thing as "directly selecting targets and operating the targeting systems themselves".
Not even close.
Do better than that.
Zarb
that means there are NATO (UK) forces in Ukraine, actively KILLING Russians and helping with attacks on Russian soil and it doesn't matter what you think counts as "Russian soil" only what the Russian government does...for purposes of declaring war, and like, you know, nuking your family.
Russian navy ships, their "Whitehouse" (Kremlin) have been attacked, using NATO info and set up by our folk, everyone knows this, the Russians had until recently not brought this up because they did not want to escalate this to World War Three.
Because, attacks like that ARE legit reasons to go to war with NATO, which was why during the Cold War everyone avoided direct attacks one each other's home nations!
Doesn't matter if it's one guy or a regiment: if they are acting under higher authority, it's war...it's also a war crime considering some of the targets
Nuland got the boot, oh I wonder why....mayhap the lunatic was about to do something even the NeoCons found insane?
Meanwhile, that's 3 Patriot systems obliterated in the past month, cause the Russian's use of "FAB" glide bombs is annihilating the Ukrainian army, so some idiot decided to move Patriots up to the combat line to try and stop the Russian jets lobbing the FABs....
which put the Patriots in easy range of missiles etc...BOOMSKI! :rolleyes:
yeah parking a Patriot radar right next to a pair of its launchers was soooo smart
The Russians have went into mass production of their FAB 1500kg weapon, go look for vids of what it does, ick!
Ukrainian hasty defences they are trying to throw up won't do jack squat cause those things blew hell out of major defences in and around Avdiivka
AND on top of that, the first jet powered glide bombs have shown up, with a range of at least 120km and probably a hell of a lot more than that
PS no, Russian stuff does not suck, they are not orcs, they are not subhumans, they are not morons, they can make stuff that gets the job done and in job lots.
Now their jets can lob up to 6 FABs at a time
FAb 250kg weapons doing a nice job of taking out a tree line
https://twitter.com/i/status/1766153427539644596
just like before, starting war with the Russians ends up with them taking time to get round to it, but when they do, they start getting very damn good at it and upgrade their gear
This time they don't have Stalin, Beria and a lunatic political system hindering things
Get some fucking respect for adversaries, no wonder America keeps losing! (and us, sigh)
No. No, it doesn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
It means that there are UK soldiers on Ukrainian soil, who are NOT actively killing Russians nor helping with attacks on Russian soil.
The quote you keep citing does NOT say that, no matter how much you want to believe that it does.
Hold the phone here - what, EXACTLY, are you saying here? Are you saying that Russian-held positions inside the borders of Ukraine during an ongoing conflict are actual "Russian soil"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
Because that is simply not how that works.
That is not how any of that works.
And EVERYONE, including Russia, KNOWS THAT.
Do you?
Whoa whoa whoa, hold the Gish Gallop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
First off, are you referring to the Russian Navy ships off the coast of Ukraine, THAT HAVE BEEN LAUNCHING ATTACKS AGAINST UKRAINE?
Second, there was a drone attack against the Kremlin in May of 2023, and we still don't know who was behind it. Note that it wasn't effective, and Putin wasn't even present at the time, so it was either a stupid tactical and strategic move by Ukraine, or a false flag attack by Russia itself.
Third (and most importantly), "using NATO info and set up by our folk"? Wtf are you talking about, EXACTLY?
And when you say "everyone knows this" (god, even that phrasing sounds like it's straight out of a Russian propaganda piece), what EXACTLY do you mean. How does everyone know this? How EXACTLY did they find out about it? How did YOU find out about this?
WTF are you talking about? If you're referring to the drone strikes on the Kremlin, they brought that up IMMEDIATELY, and launched rocket strikes against Ukraine IMMEDIATELY.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
Zarb
the Russians did not expose the number and actions of NATO military in Ukraine, because they did not want to start World War Three.
It's gone too far now.
Scholz, Macron, Sikorski and others have alle exposed our troops and special forces have been organizing and even directly attacking Russian troops and infrastructure.
Hell is coming, and it IS your fault, because if you do not oppose such shit you SUPPORT it.
As i warned for about 20 years back on the Mage Tower then here, the increasing manufactured Partisanship of Western politics has become Sectarianism, which has led to hate and self destructive stupidity
Control of the entire establishment Media by the intelligence services, has warped things into a "1984/Brave New World" state, a "daily Hate" against Russia, a nuclear super power who controls much of the world's vital commodities...oh that could never EVER go wrong, nope! Never! :rolleyes:
Please wake up :)
Time is growing ever shorter, whether this debacle ends in a Depression worse than 1930s, or a nuclear holocaust...we don't know as of yet.
But htere sure as fuck isn't anyone of support and stature in the entire Western world to stop this runaway train
What actions?Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
SPECIFICALLY, WHAT ACTIONS?
How do YOU know about those actions?
How do you know that Russia knows about them?
How do you know why Russia did not expose whatever actions you clearly cited and linked supporting sources to, above?
What SPECIFICALLY was it that crossed the line to make it too far?Quote:
It's gone too far now.
How do you know that was too far?
Citation(s). Please.Quote:
Scholz, Macron, Sikorski and others have alle exposed our troops and special forces have been organizing and even directly attacking Russian troops and infrastructure.
And no, saying "everyone knows this" is not a citation.
That is a very distinct possibility.Quote:
Hell is coming
Well, no.Quote:
and it IS your fault, because if you do not oppose such shit you SUPPORT it.
First off, that is a false dichotomy. So, that's a failure at a basic logic level.
Second, regardless of whether or not I support(ed) or oppose(d) the political leaders behind those actions in the past, it is (maybe?) occurring in the present. My direct influence on these specific (alleged) actions is effectively zero. So that is also a failure at a practical level.
American politics are not the same as "Western politics"; there is significant overlap, but the Venn diagram is NOT a circle.Quote:
As i warned for about 20 years back on the Mage Tower then here, the increasing manufactured Partisanship of Western politics has become Sectarianism, which has led to hate and self destructive stupidity
Control of the entire establishment Media by the intelligence services, has warped things into a "1984/Brave New World" state, a "daily Hate" against Russia, a nuclear super power who controls much of the world's vital commodities.
The fundamental issue then (as it is now) is tribalism, and you were correct then (as you are correct now) to sound the alarm about its risks when applied on both a national and geopolitical scale.
Silver, you've read my responses to your posts over the years. You're reading them now. You see me regularly acknowledge your arguments and you see me point out in specific detail where I disagree with you, and also where I think we find common ground.Quote:
Please wake up :)
Does that really, truly, sound like I am "asleep" to you?
Really?
That. Is a completely valid concern.Quote:
Time is growing ever shorter, whether this debacle ends in a Depression worse than 1930s, or a nuclear holocaust...we don't know as of yet.
But htere sure as fuck isn't anyone of support and stature in the entire Western world to stop this runaway train
And it scares the shit out of me too.
We may disagree on a lot of the specifics, but I think we both agree that the overall trend is toward the destabilization of modern western civilization as a whole.
And I don't know that there is any single course of action that can stabilize things, or rebuild them in a manner that does not tend toward entropy just the same.
Very worrying times.
Oh, Torcer was definitely hacked by a Russian bot long ago. He's in Smolensk right now, assembling an elite force of bots to counter all the Chinese spies the Democrats have been working with. This election is a proxy war between Russia and China. It is known.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nerkahia
It makes it harder to fight Hamas when we pretend that Hamas is made up of "civilians." It makes it even harder when liberals support Hamas because they think "derp, dey are BIPOC, derp!"Quote:
Originally Posted by FilanFyretracker
Ah, so he's the only person on Graffe's not huffing liberal farts now? Well guess what, I'm more queer than a three dollar bill, and even I'm over this woke shit. I am old enough to remember the Soviet Union and how their propaganda worked, and the last ten years have been nothing but Soviet-style propaganda and Lysenkoism masquerading as "the Science(tm)." I especially can't stand the way you goat-ropers seem to believe that starting World War Three over two corrupt dictators fighting over the corpse of a nation that was all but killed decades ago by the Holodomor in the name of anti-Kulakism is somehow supporting freedom and democracy. Especially when the people cheering on "the Ukrainians" would have been happily part of the anti-Kulak mob had you been transported through time and space to that region. I also can't stand the way these folks are cheering on Hamas after October 7th. Disgusting. I used to be very much sympathetic to the Palestinians, right up until last October 7th. They changed my mind. I'm with Torcer now. He was right all along, I was wrong on that topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonlainy
I'm not going to respond because I don't believe in arguing with crazy people, it's a waste of time and effort and it just agitates the crazy person involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
*eyes Alikat*Quote:
Originally Posted by Alikat Astrae
Well..you know...it takes one to know one! :p
I have warned you all for a long time to PLEASE get out of the cities, start a homestead if you can, certainly stockpile food and tangible goods etc :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Zarbonius
I find Americans in particular but most "youngsters in general" to have a ludicrously unrealistic understanding of the dangers :(
Remember i did explain, again over a long time, how bad our infrastructure, emergency service etc had gotten, and our "Political class" are...worse than anything even Rome produced, ugh!
Picking wars with Russia, China and Iran at the same time...on top of all these problems is just...well it's going to end very badly indeed.
Because our societies are so wealthy/out of touch etc, IMHO, societal collapse is a realistic possibility because of the shock in sudden change of circumstances, mental health issues etc etc
If folk will kill over toilet paper...what will they do when their mobile phones go off, no food on shelves or no food that they can afford?
You can't claim this is "russian disinformation"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...lized-men-war/
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"In this Ukrainian village, almost no men are left. Few men of fighting age are left in this village in southwest Ukraine, and those who remain fear they will be drafted at any moment. Their neighbors are already hundreds of miles east in trenches on the front lines. Some have been killed or wounded. Several are missing. Others from this rural area — about 45 miles from the borders of Romania and Moldova — have fled abroad or found ways to avoid the war, either with legitimate exemptions or by hiding.
“It’s just a fact,” said Larysa Bodna, deputy director of the local school, which keeps a database of students whose parents are deployed. “Most of them are gone.”
Ukraine desperately needs more troops, with its forces depleted by deaths, injuries and exhaustion. Despite Russia’s own enormous casualties, the invaders still far outnumber Ukraine’s defenders, an advantage that is helping Moscow advance on the battlefield. Ukraine’s parliament is debating a bill to expand the draft pool, in part by lowering the eligibility age to 25 from 27, but few decisions are being made in Kyiv that will quickly answer the army’s urgent needs.
Civilians here say that means military recruiters are grabbing everyone they can. In the west, the mobilization drive has steadily sown panic and resentment in small agricultural towns and villages like Makiv, where residents said soldiers working for draft offices roam the near-empty streets searching for any remaining men. Such tactics have led some to believe that their men are being targeted disproportionately compared with other regions or bigger cities like Kyiv, where it is easier to hide.
Locals use Telegram channels to warn of soldier sightings and share videos of troops forcing men into their vehicles — stoking rumors of kidnappings. Some men are now serving time in jail for refusing to sign up.
“People are being caught like dogs on the street,” said Olha Kametyuk, 35, whose husband, Valentin, 36, was drafted in June by soldiers who approached him and asked for his papers after he stopped for coffee on the main road outside Makiv. Despite a diagnosis of osteochondrosis, a joint disorder, he passed his medical exam in 10 minutes, she said, and deployed to the front, where he was wounded.
“The whole village was taken this way,” said Valentin’s mother, Natalya Koshparenko, 61. After three concussions and shrapnel wounds, Oleksii recently returned home. Scrolling through his phone, he showed a photo of him with more than a dozen fellow troops. Only two are still alive, he said."
#1 Claims of Russians using "Mass wave attacks" are bullshit, no videos ever show this, they DO show Ukrainian forced conscripts having little clue (press ganged and 2 weeks training!), or leadership doing incredibly dumb attacks, the poor bastards :(
#2 Claims of Russian losses are like the "Ghost of Kiev" shit, utterly preposterous: Ukraine claimed to have killed more Russians at Avdiivka than attacked the bloody place!
#3 Once Again, the West, principly the US, is responsible for genocide while blaming it on everyone else
Current insane Belgorod attacks:
#1 Using MLRS systems on a town centre is NOT legitimate, those are area bombardment weapons so it's deliberate terrorist attacks
#2 THose "Russian partisan" units are actual outright dyed in the wool Nazis, as was exposed before the war began...beefed up with NATO "mercs"
#3 they got utterly annihilated, when the fuck will people realize Russia isn't this incompetent useless thing they demand it to be?
and #4, oh #4....
Their main goal was the nuclear weapon storage base near the town and to seize some nukes!
This is possibly while Victoria Nuland got the boot, the crazy bitch and the hardcore Ukrainian Nazis, oh and like Ninetoes! have such a "hate boner" for Russia they'd do ANYTHING to harm Russia, no matter how crazy
Lot or rumour suggesting factions in the Pentagon and State Department have had enough of this, it's going WAY too far and so Nuland got fucked, see her speech about "Ukrainian surprises for Russia!"
Ukrainian, or rather their US and Uk masters have come up with CUNNING PLAN (tm) worthy of Baldric!
yes, let's attack Russian oil refineries with drones and saboteurs, that will show them! Yup!
*Watches oil price go up...inflation and Biden's chance of reelection go down like a crack whore in a political rally*
ya can't make this shit up, sigh
Ok, so you even know what a conversation is anymore? A discussion?
Or are you just ranting ranting ranting 24/7?
Also:
Russia removed those nukes in May of 2023, so...Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
Zarb
a) Part conversation, part pissing in the wind.
b) there ARE nukes there currently, it's been "unofficially" confirmed.
See, when NATO countries and the Baltic "chihuahuas" are threatening to jump in, the Russians have to have a handy stockpile of tactical nukes for local forces.
Russian soil- Am I not correct that Russia agreed to Ukraine becoming its own country back when the Soviet Union broke up? That would mean it is not Russian territory by definition, would it not? I can understand why Russia might want it back (everybody likes oil, if nothing else), but its not Russian territory as of the start of the current festivities.
I would appreciate it if you would separate those into separate posts - one post conversation, one post pissing in the wind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
I keep asking for sources on these assertions you keep making, and you keep not providing any (and yes, I am searching for any corroborating sources before I ask you for yours).Quote:
b) there ARE nukes there currently, it's been "unofficially" confirmed.
See, when NATO countries and the Baltic "chihuahuas" are threatening to jump in, the Russians have to have a handy stockpile of tactical nukes for local forces.
Post one link supporting what you are claiming.
Well Israel bombed the Iranian Embassy in Damascus....(also damaged the Canadian Embassy as well)
Enjoy $15/gallon for petrol!
oh and World War 3 coming out into the open
Ukraine's Nazi lunatic leaders (yes they are fucking Nazis) bombed Russian oil facilities...and in return Ukraine's entre power generation system got wiped out, plus gas facilities Europe was using for storage
The Russian missiles some here thought were "useless, fantasy, can 't hit anything!"...well the first Hypersonic cruise missiles took out SBU scumbags and a Polish Brigadier General cause a MACH 9 weapon can indeed hit a single building and burrow down into a 6 storey deep bunker
So much more I could go on about but only Schezar and Ackar seem to listen any more, so hey....
WTF is wrong with you? Volodymyr Zelenskyy is a Jew FFS. WTF are you talking about? Ukraine is led by a Jewish Nazi?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
Do you understand how insane that sounds? Do you ever consider pondering alternate sources for the BS opinions you're ingesting?
It's been his schtick since day 1 - that and accusing Ukrainian Jews on this board (me) of supporting Nazis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nerkahia
You do. Hitler and Heydrich, and of course, Stepan Bandera, are waiting in hell with open arms for you and the psychotic Zionists in Israel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninetoes
I just hope you lunatics don't take the rest of us with you
#1 Zelensky is a "cover" for the Nazi fucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nerkahia
While Nazis are a minority in Ukraine, they have taken control, backed by the CIA, oh yes that CIA which America's own press let out had bases there since 2014.
And the CIA backed the Bandera Nazis from 1946 into 53 in a secret war against the Soviets which caused the death of over 40,000 people, not any side gave a fuck about civilian casualties or waging secret war.
Before the current war began, the increasing atrocities and insanity of the Nazis running Ukraine were common fucking knowledge, so they needed something to divert from that
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#2 Zelensky's mandate was to obtain peace, but as multiple Western politicians have openly talked about, there was never any desire to implement the Minsk accords, and NATO was indeed planning on using Ukraine too attack Russia
yes they did
and yes this has been spoke about cause the big mouthed bastards couldn't help themselves, be it Stoltenberg or Merkel
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#3 Jews scumbags most certainly did help Nazis during WW2, and it wasn't just limited to the psychopaths of "Lehi"
All peoples have scumbags, it's Human Nature alas.
Scum like...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihor_Kolomoyskyi
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oh and what has recently happened in Ukraine, eh?
A "falling out of thieves" as they know their scheme is falling apart and be it the Nazis, the Russians or the ordinary Ukrainians who've had a million of their people slaughtered for American and Western schemes, Zelensky & Co are probably going to have a very ugly ending
See Zelensky firing his allies left right and centre, either as a power grab or excuse for them to flee the country before they get grabbed
oh and a democracy? Zelensky has refused to hold elections, banned all opposition, and the Orthodox Church...and the SBU duct tapes folk to lamp poles and beats them as well as grab folk off the street en masse to force them into "cannon fodder" units
Go educate yourself before dragging us all into a nuclear hell
Oh, and Israel achieved a WORLD FIRST! yesterday:
The broke the Geneva AND Vienna Conventions!
Bombed an Embassy, slaughtered a hospital, bombed unarmed foreign (Western) aid workers delivering food for the poor bastards in Gaza who they are starving to death
oh and yes, Israel , or rather, the Zionist freaks, have a hand in the Ukraine catastrophe as well.
I don't post the atrocities in Gaza cause...well...it's too ugly, and you lot are so fucking brain washed you'd ignore or cheer it
yet still you cucks support "Genocide Joe"...FFS!
how DARE you call yourselves "Liberals"!
The entire concepts of Liberalism, Conservatism, Capitalism, Democracy have went totally out the damn window and we are ruled by psychopaths, sociopaths, narcissists, junkies, pedophiles and clueless morons! :(
Says something when the International Court of Justice finds against Ukraine's bullshit claims of genocide by the Russians, but does support the fact Israel is engaged in genocide.
The Zionists had butchered more innocent civilians by deliberate design in 3 months, than the Russians have done by accident over 3 fucking years of war
How can Russia be carrying out "genocide of Ukrainians" when people have been partying in Kiev from the fucking start!
They have BONO fucking fly in and spout his wankery...hardly the "Blitz" is it, eh?
oh well now the Nazis and Ultranationalists and NATO have brought down the Russians wrath and so the lights are going out, as the Russians could have from day 1, but they still aren't committing genocide
They wanted a negotiated settlement everyone could live with, rather than have terrorism for decades...and what UKRAINIANS have said from the Istanbul peace summit in 2022 proves that
Do any of you even realize when the Ukrainian fuckwits accuse Russia of hitting Kiev etc with S-300 missiles, that it's the Ukrainians own bloody AA missiles coming back DOWN, hm?
it's an AA missile!!!
the morons were using them to target the little Shaheed drones, probably part of why they sacked the guy in charge of air defences...or for letting slip the claims of "shooting every Russian drone/missile down" was more "ghost of Kiev" bullshit
My fave was when the pricks claimed they had shot down 53 drones/missiles, when the Russians had only fired 50 :p
YOU LOT WERE WARNED ABOUT AFGHANISTAN, IRAQ, LIBYA AND MORE AND REFUSED TO LISTEN (well, most of ones left posting here)
Well we're ALL about to pay the piper for this madness, be it by nuclear devastation or economic and infrastructure collapse.
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Patriot missile systems are shit, proven once again by Iran tonight (and much earlier by Zelensky's begging for more to replace all the ones the Russians blew up)
World War Three is here folks, I warned ya!
Would you listen? would you fuck
please go prepare while you still can, and we can pray this doesn't escalate worse
You live in a fictional reality, it is a shame you get internet access there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
And you are a brainwashed minion of the Military Industrial Congressional Complex, who are going to ERASE your ass AND your family's, AND me and mine, you fucking dipshit! :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruldar
We are "superfluous to requirements", the Elite don't need us "common slaveys" any more: AI robots don't waste food or think for themselves (well at least some Humans can think for themselves)
None of that is going to happen you fucking nutcase.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
It is a genuine shame nobody has banned you from the forum yet.
True that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruldar
Normally russian disinformation bots would be have been banned instantly. This is a sad case of a human disinformation bot, but the result is pretty much the same.
The US Congress passed the funding bill to help the Israelis continue their horrific genocide, and let more Ukrainians to be press ganged and their lives uselessly blown to pieces, well, very useful for Lindsey Graham et al pay offs from Raytheon & Co
to sanction Chinese companies and banks
oh, and...that spending bill also will let the US steal the frozen $6 billion of Russian assets it holds.
Still have to go through the Senate but hey that's a "rubber stamp"
On top of that, US and Euro sanctions on Russian metals came into force, so the London Metal Exchange is banning those imports
Now then, what do you think all that is going to do, hm? Make Putin and Xi cry and give up?
No, we are already seeing spikes in copper, nickel and aluminium, and massive manipulation as the big players all know this is a colossal fuck up and will be a disaster for their businesses, or, a way to play the fucked up markets
Ergo, prices will go to the moon.
Anyone remember what pushed the Japanese into attacking the USA, hm?
Biden & Co are emptying out the US Strategic Oil Reserve to prevent the oil prices going nuts, just so they can stay in power.
Stealing the Russian assets with gross over spending, is going to lead to a "No bid" for US Treasuries.
So, when World War Three goes "official", the USA and West will be utterly fucked
inflation is already rising again, gold, coffee, and cocoa prices going up like cliff.
European industry, especially German is DESTROYED, gone, fucked, DEAD IT HAS CEASED TO BE!
When your primary manufacturing base: steel, aluminium, concrete, ammonia etc, are fucked, you are gone, dust, toast, over!
But you will all feel good knowing you showed Putin! Yes indeedy!
And so, another Yankee war kills millions as you feel sooooooooooooo superior!
Except pf course, this world war isn't going to end like the last.
"Fallout" wasn't mere science fiction, it was predictive fiction.
May not go nuclear, we can hope, but boy, is the chaos goign to be un-fucking-paralelled!
The Ukrainian lines are collapsing, not surprising since over a million of the poor sods have been killed
Seen numerous videos of the them retreating and with so few veterans left they do dumb things, like clump up...so artillery is slaughtering them :(
The money for creating liens of defence in the rear was stolen cause the undemocratic, corrupt as fuck mess Ukraine actually is ensured that would happen!
And arrogance also made them think such weren't needed
So now they're in deep shit
UK's unelected Foreign Minster, David "The Austerity Bastard" Cameron has said Ukraine can use UK donated weapons to attack deep into Russia itself
which does make us co-belligerents...so he got told off but hey, who cares, we are well on the way to fucking oblivion anyway!
The French have actual troops now in Ukraine (as opposed to "sheep dipped mercenaries"), and their initial Company got slaughtered
Not like Foreign Legion troops wouldn't stick out like a sore thumb, eh?
the Pro-Russian majority presumably informed on their obvious presence, so then Mr Iskander (tm) did them a nasty
The Western idiots who laughed at the Russians using motorbikes, ATV and souped up golf carts have been proven very wrong: THEY WORK and are cheap
The expensive Western APCs and IFVs get wrecked like anything else by mines, guided weapons and drones, so the Russians have learned to "bum rush" defences in vehicles too light to set off AT mines and too manoeuvrable for drones to easily hit, and too small and fast for artillery to be very effective against
And then you have "Blyat tanks": covered in sheet steel and pushing mine rollers, they may look dumb, but actually do the job and let the Russians assault dug in positions
IF IT WORKS, IT'S NOT STUPID!
War is entropy to the max, so you need vast numbers of vehicles, not a few over priced, unreliable pieces of shit like the Challenger, Abrahams, Bradley's, Marders etc
Folk knew this back in the day (see the ubiquitous and very excellent Sherman tank for example) but hey, Corporate Fascism and cocaine has rotted out our systems
And so much more going on, sigh
There ya go: Europe forcing Ukrainian men to go back to Ukraine to be press ganged, sent to the front with 2 weeks training, and massacred in insane, pointless counter attacks
America: fighting Communism to the very last Ukrainian, urrrrah!
Raytheon etc thanks you all for making your great great grandchildren their debt slaves!
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And now...the media scum who helped send us down this road to hell....are openly talking about the possibility of WORLD WAR THREE
Enjoy the rads, suckers!
Sigh :(
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Boris the Count Johnson, and other vermin in UK's Parliament, invited AZOV scum into the seat of our so-called Democracy
oh and who else did that? Why...Canada, who's soldiers once used to execute SS scum on the spot and for damn good reason, but now...Nazi's are loved!
FSS :(
go on, keep claiming Ukraine isn't run by Nazis and the CIA/US State Department, as always over time, reality comes out whether you like it or not, just as with Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria etc
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Russians hauled in and told the US Ambassador in Moscow:
"We are no longer at peace with the United States of America"
If you understand how punctilious the Russians are over law and diplomacy, you get what this means
Russia will also start bringing down US/NATO drones, sick of them being used to target missiles fired form Ukraine by AMERICAN operators, that kills Russians
And Putin announced they will start building "Intermediate Range Nuclear Missiles"
Again, if you have any clue you get what that means
Zelensky admitted that Ukraine was running out of men.
See also the increase in round ups and folk fighting back against the forced conscriptions.
Poking the Bear, oh who'd a thunk that could end badly, eh? :rolleyes:
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Russia is welcome to leave Ukraine at any time, there'll certainly be fewer dead Russians when they are no longer invading a separate, sovereign nation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
Oh, what about America still being in Syria and Iraq, hm?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruldar
And the US never had legal permission for being in Syria
and 250 years or more of genocidal invasions and crap by the US and Uk and France, Germany, Belgium and others
and you and the rest of these faux-Liberal jackasses ain't got the balls to contemplate on the fact both the UK and Canada has actual Ukrainian Nazis in our ParliamentsQuote:
Originally Posted by Ruldar
Why the FUCK did my family fight against the Nazis when YOU pricks support them today, hm?
jeesh, they'd be rolling in their graves :/
Silver are you literally rooting for Russia to destroy Ukraine? Fucking traitor.
Silver, you can't deflect accusations of wrongdoing by pointing your finger at someone else you think is also guilty of wrongdoing. Whether or not the second case is true is irrelevant to the original argument.
And you can't paint someone as a hypocrite for criticizing a country for warmongering when plenty of Americans protested their own wars. There are Russians that protest this invasion as well and you know what happens to them? They go to jail. How can you continue to defend this?
I love "butwhatabout"-ism. It is the true sign that you have no real arguments.
Huh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
A literal "what-about-ism".
Does anyone want to tell silver why that's a problem, from a logic/dialogue perspective?
EDIT - Dammit, Eremius; you're too quick for me today!
Yes he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by DmitrytheWizzy
...And yes he is.
They'd be rolling in their graves, yes, but specifically because of you being a disgrace to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
1000% rooting for Russia to absorb what remains of that pisshole country that only exists so that it can be used as a deep state bioweapons and money laundering pit. The whole country is nothing more than a playground for the CIA, black ops and laundering American Dollars in the order of hundreds of billions. I want Zelensky's head on a pike. I want every fucking dollar spent returned to this country and if any form of war is declared, every politician, lobbyist and federal employee in DC can be the first on the front. I want the 'New Khazaria' to be absorbed back into the mud of the Volga. I want to see NATO humiliated. I want to see NATO dissolved and our country stop playing world police for a world that hates Americans as it is. I want our borders secured and the trash that was let in incinerated.Quote:
Originally Posted by DmitrytheWizzy
Yes. Russia can have it's precious little patch of land. And America can clean up it's own house first before it runs off to shit in someone elses backyard.
Have a nice day.
Congratulations on your 3rd post on Graffes. Top notch contributions so far..!Quote:
Originally Posted by Trilobite
One odd thing though, in your first post, you said that you 'chose to be the Stoic'...You don't seem very stoic at all.
Rather, you seem like ignorant, frothing MAGA cultist, who barks loudly while wallowing in misinformation and rage.
All feeling - No wisdom. Not very stoic. Time to turn off the internet and hit the books again.
Then exit quietly and embrace your wisdom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trilobite
I'm not Ukrainian, so I can't be a traitor you damn dipshit!Quote:
Originally Posted by DmitrytheWizzy
And my family KILLED Nazis, like,....these cunts
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No they wouldn't I knew them, like my great uncle who was one of the poor sods who liberated the Belsen-Bergen concentration camp, and had horrors ever afterQuote:
Originally Posted by Ruldar
Ukraine today, is a NATO puppet run by actual Nazis who are rounding up ethnic Russian, Hungarians and Romanians and throwing them into a meat grinder with only 2 weeks of training at most, while the Nazi shitheads in the North West have parties!
And that's after nearly a decade of brutality, robbery, murders and ethnic cleansing for Western corporations to steal their damn land
US corporations own more land in Ukraine than the Russians captured, funny how you jackasses don't' know that!
One reason Zelensky is so hated is he and his prior masters overturned the law, so foreign corporations could buy up Ukrainian land
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*waves at newbie poster* :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Trilobite
Sanity, alas, has left this building, er, forum :(
They are cheering on the very things that are going to destroy them
Frankly I've have enough of them too, but there's a few sane folk left here, and peoples' families don't deserve to share their fate when SHTF, sigh
Rank stupidity = Darwin Award time, but, hey kids don't deserve to go hungry, run out of insulin or get burned in a nuclear-triggered firestorm cause their parent's are political zealots
They are too arrogant and cowardly to accept a fact everyone USED to know back in the Cold War:
You CANNOT and must not ever even TRY to defeat an nuclear super power in a conflict on their border, because you WILL force them to NUKE YOU!! :(
FUCK "causes" or other bullshit, you don't pull suicidal shit like that, it's basic common sense, but today, common sense is nor "common"
The scum who slowly took over America and the West, pushed partisanship ever more, for their own ends
But partisanship becomes Sectarianism, and that always ends very badly indeed :(
over here, Tony Benn was the last great, true politician of the Left, didn't always agree with him, but boy did I admire his compassion and refusal to knuckle down to the slimy, "group think", warmongering bastards! :)
Who'd a thunk it?
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Just a note about NATO, also applies to the CIA and MI6Quote:
Originally Posted by DmitrytheWizzy
Nietzsche was right :/
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Fiction is one of the few places where folk can talk on such things and not get literally attacked (see Assange for example when you try and talk on it outside the veil of "fiction")
and they have been warning you for DECADES what's coming or indeed, what has actually come to pass
Time is almost up, wake up and do something to avoid your fate while you still can...or not
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Silver is Scottish, not Ukrainian, so this makes no sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by DmitrytheWizzy
He's part of Western Civilization, which Russia is a primary threat. So yes, it makes perfect sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schezar
Whose missing a toe and now has less than half a heart to give fucks to?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninetoes
That guy up there right here.
Wow.
There is very much nazi allegory sensitivity that has isolated its use as a social speak, or analogy.
It has been very commonplace to talk about, for a time, especially in the 1990s during the period of time from a bit before Schindler's List until perhaps 10 years after Saving Private Ryan.
Recently, it has become a shunned speak.
I am at a point, where anything remotely resembling operation paperclip doesn't fucking bother me. I don't need to give fucks for the past. I don't need the annals of history to be changed. People who will improve the world with that knowledge, (and the ability to form their own biases) will do so on their own, without a rail car taking everyone to it.
We also benefit to not have any portion of its history outlawed, nor erased from social acknowledgement.
I *hate* hearing the N word, especially with the soft A. But I'm not going to make a fuss. It is a social grace for some, and a social flag for the other. Everything has its in between.
I am not personally offended by Silverblade's accesses, but I do think it is nice to read his logic trains. I'm thankful we allow that here.
YOU were part of the biggest slaughter machine the world has ever seen, sunshine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninetoes
Constant war for about 250 years, nearly all based on lies and false flags, and it was a MARINE general who publicly blew the lid on it
You're a zealot, and just like those who destroyed ancient Israel, zealots of various kinds today will not quit until the world literally burns :/
Long as Russians or whoever dies, you cheer
meanwhile...Ukraine is being bled white, they've mined and barbed wire sections of the border to stop poor bastards escaping from the commissars, rounding 'em up for the meat grinder.
So much for your love of "Ukrainians", same old fucking same old, millions die for Uncle Sam, who pisses on his own troops as well.
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Sums it up, you lot are so damn hypocritical or ignorant its scary :(
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As for the insanity that has taken over Israel and is tied to this push for the suicide of civilization....
Several members of their government have spoke out about using "enhanced weapons", not just nukes, but either EMP or neutron bombs against Lebanon.
but hey, according to the MSM, there absolutely is not a genocide against Palestinians (some of whom were Jews and Christians fyi), and so of course, the wonderful tolerant non-genocidal psychos who run Israel would NEVER do such a thing, nope, never!
oh and as I said; it WAS the Israeli military who killed most of the poor sods on October 7th and that's the ISRAELI press exposing it now.
I WAS RIGHT AGAIN!
Cause you lot of pretend Liberals are nothing of the kind: yer gutless, or "apparatchiks" of the evil mess that has taken over our countries, sigh
please wake up :) or one day, YOU will personally know the damnation of what "Good German" means
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...1-fdbe45520000
Quote:
IDF Ordered Hannibal Directive on October 7 to Prevent Hamas Taking Soldiers Captive
'There was crazy hysteria, and decisions started being made without verified information': Documents and testimonies obtained by Haaretz reveal the Hannibal operational order, which directs the use of force to prevent soldiers being taken into captivity, was employed at three army facilities infiltrated by Hamas, potentially endangering civilians as well
As I've said previously, there are many Israeli witnesses to their own military opening fire on CIVILIANS with tank guns, Hellfire missiles etc
that is part of why there are so many demonstrating against Netanyahu at the moment
another is over last 30 years Israel's been covered into a psychotic mess by the import of Jews from ex-Soviet countries, and a deliberate campaign of brainwashing to support the most extreme Zionism in the Israeli media
You had Jewish Israelis warning of this for decades, but damn few listened because it was "inconvenient", as per fucking usual
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Sense left the building a looooong time ago, bud :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Schezar
Smart folk know there's a very serious drive for war against China and Russia and are absolutely shitting bricks about it, quite rightly :( :( :(
But look at the drivelling lunacy some of the posters here have spouted, laughing at Russian nukes and subs....not the act of informed or sane people, is it?
Years ago Alikat refused to believe the Russians could build an autonomous giant torpedo drone that could navigate much of the world and deliver a 100 megaton nuke into US coastal areas...well it's bloody real, as are their hypersonic cruise missiles etc which by the way, the head of the Ukrainian air defences got fired for admitting they hadn't shot down ANY of the supersonic missiles, never mind the hypersonic ones!
The West has been pushing Russia into using a tactical nuke so NATO has an excuse to get directly involved, but the Russians keep refusing to fall for the bait, which is frustrating the lunatics no end
So the odds of the CIA/MI6 doing a "false flag" like 9/11 again, but with a nuke, are serious
We are in extremely deep shit :/
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Another point why the faux-Liberals are freaking out on me, is:
They know Ukraine is losing as is their utterly corrupt bullshit scumbag leader int he Whitehouse
Oh, and the entire Western economy and society is falling apart despite their denials
So they take it out on me and others, sigh
They'd be much, MUCH better off trying to help themselves and their families survive the coming mess, but, as usual....
they stoke their zealotry ever higher as that's easier than admitting they were wrong and doing something about it :(
Don't here the fauz-Liberals cheering that Assange has finally been released, do we, oh why oh why?
just as well Tony Benn has passed, he'd be in tears: last great true left wing politician over here, didn't agree with everything he said but the guy had guts and compassion
Now we have an actual World Economic Forum, Fabian Society, Zionist, Malthusian, genocidal CUNT in power, so we're well and truly fucked :(
Do you have actual strawmen in your home that you pin labels on?
Because you're responding to things that nobody said, and braying "see, I was right and you were wrong" over and over again, when the only voices that said those things were in your head.
Get a grip, silver. Get help.
Sucks to be you: wrong again! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Zarbonius
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-russia-assets
As I alluded to here and in the "economic collapse" thread.Quote:
Saudis Warned G-7 Over Russia Seizures With Debt Sale Threat
Warning made to EU states, said people familiar with matter
The West has destroyed itself, the ONLY thing keeping the UK afloat for example, was the huge money laundering etc in the "City of London", which the sanctions and asset seizures put the kibosh on
And, has fuelled "De-Dollarization" which will totally destroy all Western economies.
All that debt will reverse, especially to the US, in a tsunami of hyperinflation
but hey, keep on with supporting World War Three if it makes ya all feel virtuous and shiny...but we'll all be either starving or glowing if this keeps up.
Silver.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
Answer a question if you can.
Let's assume that Ukraine is run by actual Nazis as you say.
Should the US invade Ukraine to liberate it from those Nazis? Should any country? Why?
Nazis funded supported and put into power by AmericaQuote:
Originally Posted by Zarbonius
Though one could argue with good reason, that America got infected and taken over in part by Nazis: you know, "Operation Paperclip" etc
And once Nazis or lunatics like the Khmer Rouge start killing civilians, as they did in the Donbass, well yes, that's reason.
Whether it is practical, safe, likely to turn out with a reasonable result etc, that's where it gets even more sticky
Starting a global war to break up and loot Russia and China, now that is real fucking dumb
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Proposed new NATO HQ, oh, interesting design choice, eh?
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Oh dear, despite all the faux-Liberal cowardice, Biden's mental collapse is no longer deniable, even by you lot
once again, I was right and you were wrong
btu this is about a man in charge of a nuclear arsenal, in charge of a country that has actually led us into World War 3 and if this shit doesn't stop WE ALL FUCKING DIE
But hey, "virtue signal" away, feel happy about "doing the right thing" as the nukes fly *face palm* :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65w2AuVBSGI
Day before the big NATO meeting in US....Ukrainians accuse Russia of hitting a children's hospital with a cruise missile
Oh how convenient, WHO'D A THUNK IT, EH?
#1 KH 101 now carry an 800 kg warhead, if such had hit the building next door to the hospital as they claim, the entire front of the hospital would have come down
#2 official death and injuries according to Ukrainian government itself: One doctor and one adult civilian were killed and 16 people, including seven children, were injured
#3 the ORIGINAL film footage of such doesn't support a cruise missile, doctored photos that came out later prove the West/Ukraine as usual are manufacturing another atrocity to justify expanding the war.
it was almost certainly a NASAM air defence missile, as often much of the civilian hits are caused by errant air defence same as occurred in the Blitz ont he UK in WW2 where many of the causalities were caused by our own AA defences but that was covered up
"What goes up must come down" and having AA missiles inside cities...!
#4 The fact so many Ukrainians defied the Nazi regime of Kiev and posted footage of the strikes in the area show the ordinary people are turning on the bastards in charge
It's illegal for them to post such vids int he wonderful free democracy of Ukraine...
#5 those many videos show the catastrophic power of a KH 101 hit
oddly enough the MSM isn't' showing the many videos of widespread strikes, just the one on the hospital....
#6 those videos prove the claims of Ukraine and US missile makers are fucking lies
as usual the Kiev regime claimed almost every single missile and drone was shot down....which all the damn videos prove otherwise
It's getting so bad even pro-Ukrainians are getting sick of it
And if the Patriot system is sooooo good, why is the "Beggar of Kiev" asking for every single one in Europe, hm?
Ukrainian claim
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Wee bit of practical proof of how Ukraine and the West lies:
Russia has annihilated Ukraine's power generation capacity, which would be hard to achieve if the Russians missiles are crap, if they can't make many of them and the Russians are evil monsters hitting civilians all the time with their expensive missiles
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Talk shit about this and I'll post pics and videos of the obscene atrocities the Israelis are doing, they just wiped out a fucking school live on camera
YOUR ENTIRE WORLD VIEW IS BASED ON SATANIC LIES
As I warned so long ago, brainwashing to encourage partisanship, has become Sectarianism
You will believe or do any crime the Leadership tells you to, because you've gone that far down the rabbit hole:(
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There is no Left, there is no Right
It's all one vile amoeba that wears different football strips to bamboozle fools into walking into the amoeba's cannibalistic embrace!
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Sorry to use memes so much but hey nothing is else is getting through
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So that's a yes? If Nazis (or some other group) start killing civilians, somebody somewhere should invade that country to stop them. That's what you're saying?Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
Operation Osoaviakhim must have only "liberated" the good folks of Germany coerced by the government, right Silver?
If it's on a colossal scale, IF it's legit and not just another excuse for endless war/hegemony, IF it's safe and starting wars with nuclear powers is NOT safe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zarbonius
Ukraine Vs Russia is a civil war fuelled by the West, we should never have started or got involved of fanned the flames.
Both Gulf Wars were based on total lies, REMEMBER THAT?!!
Or Vietnam, or afore our times, Spanish American War, The Zulu and Boer Wars, and so so so so many others
And even World War Two was BULLSHIT LIES
Monstrous as the Nazis were, the West funded and supported the bastards for their own sick fucking games, as per usual.
That's how the Nazis got a lot of their funding and huge "PR" campaign
And America pushed Japan into attacking them and FDR fucking let all those sailors and marines die in Pearl Harbour for that lying excuse for war.
and if you don't like that horrible truth...you are gutless.
Millions keep dying for the "Forever War Machine", but this time...it might be the end of us all.
Britain and France knew sure as fuck they couldn't do a damn thing to help Poland in 1939, was just a set up and the Poles sacrificed for a nice Cassus Belli
But, once again, things went "aft agley" for the scum who run our countries, because their inbred stupidity as usual, made a total fuck up in 1940 battles
UK and France could and should have wrecked the Germans easily, yet Norway and France were total disaster, covered up by making Dunkirk a "heroic event" instead of hanging every MTFer at the top!
Sigh
But hey, 'MURICA!
keep believing the bullshit, see how that turns out in the nuclear age!
please Zarb, wake up and get the fuck away form urban areas/military targets :)
Stalin as a monster, but he dealt with most of the Nazis the RIGHT way: neck shot or SiberiaQuote:
Originally Posted by Ronin
We imported whole SS units and let them become citizens, Russians turned 'em into fertilizer.
oh and yeah, who was it who funded and unleashed the Bolsheviks onto Russia, hm?
Does it hurt to have Mr. Putin's hand so far up your arse?Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade
Quote:
Originally Posted by Delores Mulva
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Remember they said they were winning in Afghanistan, Iraq and Vietnam, hm?