First Canada has to deal with a 2016 Stanley Cup with no Canadian teams, and now they lose their premier athlete of the 20th century :(
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First Canada has to deal with a 2016 Stanley Cup with no Canadian teams, and now they lose their premier athlete of the 20th century :(
No, that would be Wayne Gretzky. But Gordie Howe certainly lived up to his nickname, Mr. Hockey. He was what the game was all about.
Canadian sports network TSN's obit, much longer than the previously linked BBC one and one that tells a lot about who he was: http://www.tsn.ca/gordie-howe-1928-2016-1.504811
And an anecdote that isn't in the TSN article, one that is how I remember him:
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Originally Posted by Toronto Star online obit excerpt
An actual discussion at work just now, while discussing how to play the Gordie Howe news:
Me: "It kills me that no one's reading this Gordie Howe obit."
Colleague: "You thinking of dropping it from the page?"
Me: "Maybe. But he's Gordie Howe! He isn't Muhammad Ali, obviously, but he's on the list of greatest North American athletes of all time. In sports, in general, he's at least as significant and well-known as, say, Carl Lewis."
Colleague: "Carl who?"
Me: "Seriously?"
Colleague: "Yeah, Carl Lewis?"
Me: "He won nine Olympic gold medals. In terms of pure sprinting, he's to the '80s what Jesse Owens was to the '30s."
Colleague: "Yeah, sorry, never heard of him."
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Originally Posted by PPatty
Pretty damned sure it'd be perfectly acceptable to bludgeon your colleague. Not to death, maybe just short of bloody.
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Sent to you from Ben Johnson's Ragin Canadians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Merkus
Your colleague proved your point: he's as well-known as Carl Lewis, which is to say "not well-known amongst a certain subset of people". Gordie Howe (one-off stunt aside) played his last pro game in 1980, had his last significant NHL season in 1971, was at his peak in the 1950's, played the lesser of the big North American team sports, and didn't do anything splashy after his career was over. I can see anyone who isn't a hockey fan not knowing who he was, or caring about his death. Carl Lewis's last gold medal was what, 20 years ago? It may be more of a statement about the value of Olympic medals than anything else.
Tougher than Dick Butkus you think?Quote:
Originally Posted by PPatty
Easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aennyil
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Originally Posted by All quotes are TSN article excerpts
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In his first game in Montreal, Richard challenged Howe with a shove, and Howe knocked Richard out cold with one punch.
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In the opening game of the 1950 playoffs against Toronto, Howe tried to check Teeder Kennedy, took a stick in the face and crashed into the boards. He suffered a broken nose, fractured cheekbone, badly scraped eyeball and a serious concussion.
His head was shaved and a small hole was drilled through his skull above his right ear to relieve pressure on his brain. Doctors didn't know if he'd live. His mother and sister Gladys flew in from Saskatoon to be at his bedside.
Howe emerged from hospital to attend the Stanley Cup-clinching win over the New York Rangers in the old Olympia. When the crowd began chanting, "We want Howe!" he emerged from the corridor to the dressing room with bandages covering his head and received a rousing ovation.
"Luckily, we were in a big city with a big hospital," he said years later about the skull fracture. "If we were in a small town somewhere, I was gone."
The indestructible Howe won the scoring title the next season.
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He never forgot a slight. Montreal defenceman J.C. Tremblay once called him a dummy during a summer card game. A year later, Howe dropped Tremblay with an elbow during a game.
In 1974, during an eight-game WHA-Soviet Union series, the Russians were dumbfounded that Howe could be such a force.
"I mellowed a bit as I got older but when I was playing in the WHA against the Russians and one of them hurt (my son) Mark, I went out and played against the guy who did it," Howe recalled. "When I came out of the corner, he didn't."
Averaged one penalty minute per game on a career that lasted until he was 52 years old. An all-star for 21 seasons, in a game where the vast majority of players won't even play 21 seasons. As one person I saw interviewed said, he was Popeye on skates.Quote:
During his long career, he suffered two serious head injuries, broke a wrist, toe, fingers, ribs and collarbone. He broke his nose at least 14 times, had a hernia, surgery on both knees and took more than 300 stitches to his face.
Howe didn't miss any games the year he broke the wrist. He just wore a cast and shot left-handed.
"I only had three teeth knocked out in my career and, oddly enough, it was in the first game I played," he was quoted in an autobiography. "After that, someone had to come through lumber to get to my mouth.”
Yep. You are most certainly not wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daxil Solshok
I guess is misunderstood your point.
That is an AWESOME quote.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delores Mulva
ALF actor Michu Meszaros dead at 76
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ALF actor Mihaly “Michu” Meszaros died Monday at the age of 76, EW has confirmed. The news comes one week after Meszaros was reportedly found unconscious in his home and hospitalized in Los Angeles, where he slipped into a coma for several days.
At 2-foot-9, Meszaros was unofficially known as the smallest man on Earth. Peforming with the circus since the age of 14, the Hungarian-born actor first rose to prominence in Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus during the ’70s. He toured throughout the U.S. and Canada putting on shows for the likes of Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan. He even befriended his idol, Michael Jackson, along the way.
Meszaros later landed a role as the title character on ’80s NBC sitcom ALF, which ran from 1986 to 1990. He performed in the furry alien suit whenever ALF’s full body was shown. (Paul Fusco is the man behind ALF’s voice.)
Meszaros also picked up gigs in Warlock: Armageddon and Freaked in 1993. His additional credits include episodes of Dear John and H.R. Pufnstuf, as well as films Look Who’s Talking and Big Top Pee-wee.
According to TMZ, Meszaros had suffered from health problems since experiencing a stroke eight years ago.
A GoFundMe page was recently launched to help with medical fees as Meszaros fought for his life, and now stands to pay for funeral costs.
Mordlu, my condolences on your loss. :(
I actually have to let a few people know...
I think I'll have to have a cold creme sundae in his honor.
Ann Guilbert from The Nanny and The Dick Van Dyke Show has passed away.
Meatloaf may be next :(
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/e...show-1.3639880
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Originally Posted by Mileron
That is the most beautifully Canadian thing I have heard in months.Quote:
"We were sort of watching to see if he was going to walk out the back door or be carried out or whatever, but they covered it up and backed the ambulance right up to the back," said Munroe. "They were protecting his privacy very well."
Let's hope it's just exhaustion or somesuch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mileron
Lead singer of P.M. Dawn, Attrell Cordes, dead at 46 from diabetes and renal kidney disease:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/18/entert...ies/index.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AOVf9p9ht4
Anton Yelchin, Checkov from the new Star Trek movies.
Freak car accient. Sad :(
Holy crap!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawlin
Damn, he was always one of those few actors I kept an eye on because he was so great in everything :(
Great cartoon!
Awesome sendoff!
Mr. Yelchin's vehicle was a 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee. Specifically, it was one of the 1.1 million vehicles Fiat Chrysler recalled back in April to deal with an issue with the vehicles rolling away after the owner exits:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/anton-ye...dent-1.3643587
Let the game of Liability Roulette begin. Fiat Chrysler, for making crap cars and potentially not contacting Mr. Yelchin? Mr. Yelchin, for not taking his vehicle in for the recall? Some unnamed PA, whose job it was to handle things like this for Mr. Yelchin? As someone who once worked for a Chrysler dealership, I can't emphasize this enough: if you get a recall notice, make the appointment to get the work done ASAP. Odds are the company was forced to deal with an issue when it became obvious that potential liability would dwarf any savings from not running the campaign, so you want it fixed immediately. Plus, as a convenience issue, dealers often don't get sufficient supplies of any parts required for a recall repair, and you want to be at the top of the list for when they can do the repairs.
Lets not forget the gate design as well, he was pinned against the gate of his drive. I am surprised powered gates are not required to push open from the inside like the doors of a supermarket.
He was pinned against the brick mailbox pillar and the gate. You can see a picture of it in my CBC link - it's not moving. You can also see how the bars of the gate are warped where he was pinned. The official cause of death, blunt traumatic asphyxia, also gives you some idea of how bad it must have been.
not owning a Chrysler is this roll away issue something that could happen even when the brake was set?
What I hate is that now I can truly imagine that this was not a quick death... the suffering he must have gone through had to have been brutal. Makes it even sadder.
As a volunteer fireman/EMT for over 20 years, I saw my share of death - I always felt a sigh of relief if I knew the person couldn't have suffered much.
We own a town and country. I've noticed that putting the vehicle in park is not entirely reliable.
Simply not owning a Chrysler product is the best safety practice ever.
Using only park is unreliable all makes of car. I have honestly never not used my parking brake.
Maybe we should ban them?
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by FilanFyretracker
I only use my parking brake on inclines because shifting out of park is bad for the locking mechanism if there's greater than unusual incline stress due to gravity's action on the car.
It's a transmission issue - the car is slipping from Park to Neutral. The parking brake would stop rolling, but a fair number of people don't use the parking brake. I use mine even on flat surfaces, like in my parking garage. But like I said, I once worked for Chrysler, and the sheer volume of transmission problems they had convinced me I could never trust a car to stay stationary without that brake on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Filan
You have no idea how right you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonlainy
Oh, I had no idea he was the kid in Hearts in Atlantis, too.
Side note: have never had a Chrysler, and at this rate, never will. I only use my parking brake if I have to park on the side street, which is a fairly steep incline.
I have owned one Chrysler product in my life and that was enough to convince me I will never again.
But Lee Iacocca wrote a well-received autobiography in 1984!
We should totally trust him, because he was all over the news back then because he was the pinnacle of corporate success!
You should always set your parking brake, even in non-Chrysler vehicles. Not using it, or using it only sparingly, allow the cables to corrode faster, which can cause it not tighten as well and/or snap the cable. Pretty much everything I've read or heard says it is a very good safety practice, as we see the Park position in an automatic transmission doesn't always mean the car isn't going to move.
Okay, I'm not a car guy by any stretch of the imagination (or parking brake cable!) but how does that make any sense, exactly?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonlainy
Metal corrodes when exposed to the elements that cause corrosion, not when left un-stretched.
Please enlighten me.
If you're using it regularly, the stretching/constricting breaks up rust on the cable. If you aren't, it can build up, and that buildup is what causes problems.
From the latest reports, it may not be a Chrysler transmission issue, though. The Jeep in question has an electronic transmission, and one of the problems that prompted the recall is it can be unclear to the user that the car isn't in Park. I find it a little difficult to believe that he could get out of a car on an incline and not notice immediately that it was moving (or get between it and the gate before it hit the gate), but the investigation should find out the exact circumstances.
Delores beat me to it, so I won't rehash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Merrick ap'Milandra
They even suggest especially on a hill that you shift to park, apply parking brake and then release the normal brakes so that at no time does the car come to rest on the transmission's locking system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonlainy
That's what I do on inclines.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilanFyretracker
Thanks for the explanation, Delores. That makes sense.
I lived in SF for a year, just after getting my drivers license.
Using the parking brake becomes ingrained into the very fiber of your being when you start your "car career" on the slopes of the bay.
Very sad end for him, indeed :(
So, I learned that you should turn your tires into the curb to prevent rolling when parallel parking in addition to using the parking brakes. People usually do that, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawlin
In SF they do. Not really in use here in Denmark, but we don't have any elevation worth mentioning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Merkus
It depends on how you are parking. If you are parking facing down the hill, turn your steering wheel to the right so that they rest against the curb and, if for some reason your car's brakes fail or transmission engages, you'll stick to the curb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Merkus
If you are facing up the hill, turn your wheel to the left, and let your car reverse slowly into the curb from the front tires. Same idea, but this way the carried moment of a failed transmission won't first allow your car to rise over the curb form the back tires as your front tires turn the front of the car away from the curb.
And yes, always use the parking brake.
Here's the lawsuit! http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/23/news...ler/index.html
The money line:
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That could hit them hard in a court room. A warning when honestly the problem this well known should have had a full and proper recall in progress. Naturally as with many industries it usually takes a death or three to kick a company into gear.
Yeoch. Not good.
A buddy of mine spent decades working as an engineer in the auto industry (R.I.P Mr.C) and every, EVERY model of car made at every manufacturer he had worked for (5 of them, I believe) automatically had money put aside for this shit.
They were *not* saving money by not putting out a recall notice. The CAPEX had already been allocated and locked away to cover these costs. Putting the money aside was the only way to ensure that things missed in testing didn't affect the profit margin in a given year. If the money was already "spent", they could get more accurate trending metrics.
The only thing they stood to not lose is the slight, SLIGHT possibility that a recall *might* given them some short term bad press, which is absolutely nothing compared to a suit like this.
Ridiculous.
Returning to our regularly scheduled thread topic:
Ralph Stanley, father/popularizer of bluegrass music.
89, no details.
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Originally Posted by Mileron
Likely cause of death was being 89
Since I do not really know BlueGrass I am not sure who that is. But holy fuck this year is bad in general for music.
Carlo Pedersoli, italian olympic swimmer, 86.
😞
RIP two sports legends - Pat Summitt and Buddy Ryan. Summitt probably belongs on a coaching Rushmore somewhere.
RIP Benghazi Investigation ....
But where does Buddy belong?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grindel
Buried in the ground somewhere or another?Quote:
Originally Posted by PPatty
Nobel Peace Prize winner, author, Holocaust survivor, and person voted "Most Likely To Appear In A New York Times Crossword Puzzle", Elie Wiesel, dead at 87:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/02/world/elie-wiesel-dies/
Definitely belowground. It is known.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grindel
Well at least the newest listing died at 87. I mean so far this year the reaper has been a wee bit greedy.
Just before the thread fell off the first page: Garry Marshall, producer and director, at age 81:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/20/entert...ary/index.html
That article doesn't get across exactly how prolific he was:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005190/
And his stint on Hocus Pocus with Penny...always loved that.
Definitely a loss, I enjoyed most of what he did. As a kid I always enjoyed Love, American Style, and of course Mork & Mindy, Happy Days, Laverne & Shirley, The Odd Couple. It's amazing what he was part of. Hocus Pocus was one of my daughter's favorite movies to watch at Halloween when she was younger, and you're right, Laedria, he and Penny Marshall were awesome in it.
Football fans will remember this fella:
Denny Green dies
Not an all-time great coach, but a very good coach who couldn't get over the hump, in the realm of guys like Chuck Knox and George Allen. Although if Randy Moss doesn't drop a TD pass that hits in the gut against the Falcons in that NFC championship game, or if Gary Anderson doesn't have his first miss of the year on a what should have been an easy field goal in that same game, Green probably has a Super Bowl title to his name.
And of course:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWmQbk5h86w
Tom Selleck is not dead, despite all the hoopla :P
Magnum PI, Quigley Down Under for the win!
Sad to see him go. He frustrated me to all hell but he was a good coach and a good person. Plus, he had one of the top two sports rants of all time (can you guess the other one I'm thinking of?)Quote:
Originally Posted by PPatty
As for that NFC Championship game, part of me died that day and I actually became less of a fan of the NFL because of it. The most hilarious episode of How I met Your Mother was the one where Marshal takes Robins to a Vikings' Bar and all they can do is commiserate about the 1999 NFC Championship game.
He is amazing in Blue Bloods.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
thanks for the tip, mate! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dramadon
will look see if Amazon vid has that
Assuming that we're limiting the field to coaches' press conference rants, I assume it's something from this list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dramadon
That's a great list and the one I was thinking of was number 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by PPatty
Found another list, I think I like this compilation even more:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-bi...185004931.html
Wonder if she saw that coming... oh, cancer. So probably :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Ackar
Dionne Warwick should have called her and foretold her, if not.
I blame Dmitry posting the Alfred E. Neuman picture for this: Jack Davis, Mad magazine artist who drew Alfred E. Neuman, dead at 91:
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-36912468
Dmitry's Curse in action. I haven't read Mad Magazine much in the last couple of decades, but in high school and college I bought it as much as I could, such a classic. Jack Davis was truly a master in the art of cartooning.
FUCK!
Jerry Doyle died :(
adored Babylon5 that show and it's actors were amazing, such wonderful characterization and emphasis on that not "Posing" or "technobabble"
and we've lost so many of the cast
the guys radio show and politics were a bit nutsy lol but he was sincere guy
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36918773
Holy shit.
That sucks.
His podcast was a bit on the weird side, but he always seemed like a good dude.
60.
Wow.
Merrick
loved his very necessary acerbic harshness and whackiness in the show, it was needed as fair offset from it's over all moral tone and sheer fun,
Daffy Duck (my hero! :P) or as he explained Daffy to G'Kar, "he's a household god of frustration" lol
and with G'kar and Londo's long tragic and AMAZINGLY well acted/written relationship, but Andreas Katsulas dying
and Christopher Biggs (the doctor) dying
and Jeff COnway 9security #2) dead
sigh
I think Londo/G'Kar's story is one of the best ever, in fiction
RIP, Jack Davis. Your satirical art formed an indelible part of my childhood and formative years.
https://img1.etsystatic.com/030/1/95...76971_g6zi.jpg
See post #679 in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by PPatty
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Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
Michael O'Hare (Commander Sinclair) also died at the age of 60 (back in 2012)
Clarence the Reaper has one year marked on Keith Richards.
The one who goes and plays "Pizza Man" with Meg?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinthalas Tigris
He didn't really die, he just went back a few millenia to become Valen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodja
Now the Yelchins are filing their own:Quote:
Originally Posted by Delores Mulva
http://www.people.com/article/anton-...wsuit-chrysler
Do they have a good case?
Depends what they want. This feels like a good case to get a reasonable settlement, but a bad case to get a public apology or big settlement. Fiat Chrysler wants to put this to bed fast because of how high-profile it is, but not if it's going to impact the class action suit.
I say we give Dmitry another ban just for Jack's memory! :evil:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonlainy
It's been an intention of mine for many years to get a subscription to Mad Magazine. Being the nominated VP for the Procastinator's Club I never followed through on that intention. They say the road to hell is paved with good intentions. My life is proof positive of that.
Ergo, as Churchill advised:
If you're going through hell, keep going!
David Huddleston, in tons of movies, including Big Lebowski, dead at 85 :(
https://www.theguardian.com/film/201...ski-dies-at-85
If I got to choose an epitaph for myself (which is kinda gauche, like picking your own nickname times ten) I'd like that one.Quote:
Things were not important to him – people were
It says a lot about the guy, and while I haven't seen everything he was in, everything I saw I enjoyed greatly.
Boy.
We lost Hoffman. Now Huddleston. I sure hope Elliot, Bridges, Buscemi, or Goodman aren't about to punch out anytime soon.
John Saunders from ESPN passed away at 61.
The video of Hannah Storm announcing that death is a heartbreaker :(Quote:
Originally Posted by jaly
RIP Kenny R2-D2 Baker
Kenny Baker, The Actor Who Brought R2-D2 to Life, Dies at 83
http://io9.gizmodo.com/kenny-baker-t...ies-1785245979
No one else here will care about this, but I care:
The Little Red-Haired Girl dies
http://media.vanityfair.com/photos/5...c-strip-02.png
I wonder if this means Chuck will finally go for me instead:
http://i.imgur.com/fnnGKsd.jpg
Probably not. But hey, there's always hope:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mw9osOJC8N...0/ppcried3.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--X9295zsWl...0/ppcried4.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-iAwvoXjdqq...0/ppcried5.jpg
Wow.
I always forget that Schulz was from my neck of the woods.
Sounds like she lived a fantastic life.