Russia's Wagner Group commits more war crimes
Justify this Silverblade, without a whatabout
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Russia's Wagner Group commits more war crimes
Justify this Silverblade, without a whatabout
Take one part "traitors die in war", one part "BBC slanted media bias", add some tortured analogy to some massive past tragedy/war, and sprinkle in some "this side did something bad in the past so everything they do is wrong", and you will have your response. Your time would be better spent getting this tattoo versus expecting a satisfactory answer:
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You magnificient bastard :)
What the fucking fuck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninetoes
I cannot see how someone could see something that does not scream multiple war crimes from that.
It's only a war crime if someone actually does something about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilanFyretracker
see you and raise:
Ukrainian Nazis publicly showing their faces while making chemical weapon grenades and gleefully dropping them via drones
Ukrainian Nazis knee capping, killing and cutting the eyes out of Russian POWs
(and those were put on their OWN channels and gleefully announced and celebrated by them)
Tying ethnic Russian civilians to lamp poles and beating them or leaving them to die
oh and of course! lets not forget the 14,000 CIVILIANS butchered by Ukrainian nationalists for last 8 years or so
But hey, folk like Ninetoes have such an absolute hate boner for Russia, a Jew, an American, supports Nazis...a perfect example of sectarian hatreds, and something people and authorities in Israel protested against, until those bloody war started :(
Most of you don't know about the crazy century old hatreds over there, or sectarianism, well I sure as fuck do
oh and yes, Zelensky shut down all opposition parties and media outlets, banned the Russian Orthodox Church
that regime has looted the nation bald, and why oh why are we propping up by the hundreds of billions, a regime that cannot win that war (no they can't, get real you idiots, go study reality, like production, supply lien lengths, de-industrialization of Europe and fact Russians do NOT fuck about at total war, NATO's like a bunch of inbred Nobs who run their local regiment into the ground wanting to take Napoleon...oh FFS)
And now the regime is imploding, helicopters being hit by AA fire, please note there is NO FUCKING WAY a Russian helicopter would come near Kiew, cause it would be annihilated, like that one was, with all those high ranking politicians on board
and lots more have been fired , disappeared or dead
FALL OF SAIGON V 2.0 !!
oh and yes Arestovych has been singing since he got booted out, don't hear what he's been saying in the West since he let out the block of flats WASN'T struck by a deliberate Russian missile attack, but as often is the case on civilian tragedies, the Ukrainian AA are shit and brought BOTH missiles down on the area.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-killed-dozens
and as usual the West isn't quoting the other stuff he's been letting on about
FUCK are you lot thick, naive or part of the literally SATANIC system :(
and I don't mean "magicky religious satanic", I just mean absolute fucking nihilistic evil that's going to kill most of us if not all
But again, YOU WILL NOT LISTEN, YOU DO NOT WANT TO KNOW!
I just keep hoping it doesn't end up as bad as it might, not just nuclear, China and Russia are easily capable of DESTROYING our civilizations without nukes or EMPs :(
How many Pulitzers have you won? Yeah, zeroQuote:
Originally Posted by Ninetoes
BALLOONS! AND UFOS! AND OCTAGONS! OH MY!
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Look over here! not at Nord Stream, the fact we are in WORLD WAR THREE thanks to the insane scum in Washington and London, our economies are going down like sand in a funnel, our systems from trains to pipelines to food distribution are burning, hacked, broke, falling apart, clapped out, leaking etc
oh yeah and MORE releases from the US Strategic Oil Reserve, thinking they are gonna fill it up on the cheap when they beat Russia...oh JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!! :banghead:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-se...200426064.html
YER AT WAR ON ALL FRONTS, YA STUPID BASTARDS while emptying the bloody WAR reserve! ?
why aren't you voting these lunatics on ALL SIDES out, hm?
out Pee Wee Herman in charge, even he'd do a better job, sigh
Israel's started war with Iran, China's edging to blockade Twain, USA started sabotage warfare SO YOU ARE GOING TO TASTE YER OWN FRUIT!
Guess what's going to happen to the price of oil, hm?
the sanctions and "oil price cap" was one of the biggest self inflicted political and economic disasters in all history, perhaps THE worst. :banghead:
Aaaaaaaaaaargh! are you all so scared you refuse to see? or just that stupid?
or that corrupt you eagerly support the madness?
Yeah, you right Delores - my energy is definitely better spent getting that tattoo.
You can absolutely go fuck yourself, you antisemitic piece of filth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
Time story on Ukrainian village held captive by Russian troops
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Seven days after the invasion of Ukraine, Russian troops entered the village of Yahidne. They forced the residents out of their homes and into the basement of the local school, which they had turned into their headquarters. Until they withdrew on March 30, 2022, the Russians kept almost the entire population of Yahidne—more than 360 people, including children and the elderly—in that basement for nearly a month.
It was so cramped, people had to sleep sitting up. Instead of a toilet, there were buckets. Food had to be foraged. There was no ventilation, so the oldest went crazy and died. The Russians did not allow the dead to be buried immediately, and when they finally did, they fired on the funeral.
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A year into the invasion, certain places in Ukraine—the Kyiv suburb of Bucha, the southern city of Mariupol—are known for what Russian forces did to the civilians there. To the list add the tiny village of Yahidne, which lay in the north of the country, directly in the path of the advancing army.
NY Times investigation into one of the units involved in the Bucha Massacre
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When videos and photos emerged in April showing bodies of dozens of civilians strewn along a street in Bucha, Ukrainians and the rest of the world voiced horror and outrage. But in Russia, officials had a completely different reaction: denial.
President Vladimir V. Putin dismissed the gruesome scene as “a provocation,” and claimed that the Russian Army had nothing to do with it.
But an eight-month visual investigation by The New York Times concluded that the perpetrators of the massacre along Yablunska Street were Russian paratroopers from the 234th Air Assault Regiment led by Lt. Col. Artyom Gorodilov.
The evidence shows that the killings were part of a deliberate and systematic effort to ruthlessly secure a route to the capital, Kyiv. Soldiers interrogated and executed unarmed men of fighting age, and killed people who unwittingly crossed their paths — whether it was children fleeing with their families, locals hoping to find groceries or people simply trying to get back home on their bicycles.
Debunking Seymour Hersh's claims about The Alta
I am no Pulitzer Prize winner but his claims are, once again, fabricated bullshit
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Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
So it's been almost a year since Russia began it's illegal invasion of Ukraine. A year where the Ukrainian people have stood, despite the paper juggernaut of the Russian Military. Stood, despite Russian war crimes in Bucha, Maripol and other locations. Stood, despite Russia's helpful idiots in the West regurgitating Russian lies.
I have never been prouder to be a Ukrainian than I have in the past year.
Slava Ukraini! Heroiam slava!
Ah, arrogance and stupidity in one forum, how efficient of you! :evil:
Damn this place has become an echo chamber of the damned, lol
So few opposing voices, isn't that strange?
Enjoy yer hate boner vs Russia, Ninetoes, all the way to it's inevitable conclusion, Captain Ahab!
Well see how Mutually Assured Destruction turns out for us all, WOOO HOOO!
RADS FOR EVERYONE! :p
https://youtu.be/yN8ge2hYdnw?list=FL...C-5Xlnjg&t=199
Silverblade,
Are you suggesting A. total capitulation to Russia or B. Nuclear annihilation as the only two options? If so I’ll still take B. because it means standing up to aggressor nations who want to conquer others and see western ideals and democracy destroyed.
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Originally Posted by Nerkahia
here you go; the apocalypse doesn't happen in a single overnight event you know!
Well unless we hit a mini-black hole, the nukes launch or the like :p
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What "Western ideals and democracy" ? What fucking bush have you been living under for the last forty bloody years? :wtf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Silke
Slaughter, hypocrisy, megadeaths, war, robbery on colossal scale etc, THAT is the West's legacy
the West talks about "free speech!" yet edits books because of "sensitivity!" :rolleyes:
America has started war after war, but no one else is allowed to do it, oh noes!
They are all filthy degenerate subhumans and only glorious Anglo-Saxon protestants can rule ze vorld!
https://www.politico.eu/article/uae-...oreign-policy/
For fucks sake grow up and you will PISS YOURSELF when the nukes fly and it IS coming without some huge sea change in the Western nutbag leadership, they've walked us into an economic apocalypse but they are intent on adding mushrooms to it as well :p
Trump was bad enough, gah! but Biden and Co....holy fuck are they out to lunch!
get this Silke, the USA helped the Ukrainians DIRECTLY to modify drones by data, EW, parts, experts etc, to attack a Russian nuclear airbase, the Ukrainians boasted about it, it's fact.
Now what would America do if Russia helped Mexican cartels attack Eglin Airbase, hm?
A few hours later lots of Mexico would be rubble and a state of war might occur between 2 nuclear powers.
Same damn thing.
again, to the American and Western leaders this is just another excuse for loot and ego
to Russia and China this is an existential conflict for survival
You act like Russia has to use its nukes. The point of mutally assured destruction is that it makes nuclear warfare an unattractive option, but it says a lot about the person that would actually go through with it, let alone be the one to use them first. Putin is either a bully trying to scare you into compliance or a monster underserving of the responsibility he has been given.
And no, their existence is not at stake. They aren't fighting for survival, they are fighting for power. They are jealous of the US and want to displace us. At least China actually has a shot; Putin is over here fantasizing about his glory days when he was the quaterback of his high school football team.
A regime is not a people. Russia and China both would be fine without their current leadership's lust for hegemony.
P.S. I'll let someone else unpack the rest of that post if they want, I don't have the time for it.
Survival? The only country that is fighting for survival is Ukraine. If they do not fight they will become part of Russia by force and have to live under Dictator Putin.
I don’t even. My mind just. What?
Yeah. Nope.
This is a weird situation. I mean, Silver has said some wildly crazy and incredibly insulting things about ukraine and Ukrainians. And just about none of it is rational - there are bits and pieces of reality, but nothing is actually connected in any sort of coherent manner.
So... I mean, do you get angry at your Uncle Lou who has Alzheimer's when he cusses you out because he thinks you are the guy that stole his girl back in high school (before you were actually born)?
Is the original person still "in there", or is this just who they are now? And do you blame them for becoming whatever they are now? Is it their fault?
When he accuses a Jew ( A Ukrainian Jew to be specific) of consorting and supporting Nazis - does it matter?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zarbonius
Did the Mexican cartels illegally invade America in your pretend scenario? Because that is exactly what happened - Russia illegally invaded Ukraine, a sovereign nation. Russia has committed multiple war crimes throughout this illegal war. All this is verifiable fact, no matter what you, Roger waters or any other useful idiot wants to pretend otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
I suppose it depends on your view of what/who a person really is, and how consciousness works. If I had a time machine and went back to show you these posts 5 years ago, would you have believed they were genuine, based on everything you knew up to that point?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninetoes
I would like to believe that I am fully in control of my thoughts and everything I say is a product of who I am and what I believe as a person. But after a few personal experiences with people suffering from dementia, I have been forced to admit that at a certain point, people's brains essentially become random content generators - a twisted version of chatGPT. And that's without considering the evidence from the last few years that mass brainwashing through media sources is not just possible but actually shockingly effective.
Maybe I'm just trying too hard to find an explanation for what we're seeing here. And maybe there's nothing pathological at all underlying any of this and it's all a product of deliberate, conscious choices. I don't know.
And to your point, at a general level maybe it doesn't matter. I've really been trying to sort out my own thoughts on this topic recently, so if it seems as though I'm supporting or excusing it, that is not my intent. But seeing something similar happen enough times that it's a clear pattern makes you start asking questions about what's going on and why. And I don't like any of the possible answers I'm seeing, and what they imply about where we're going as a civilization over the next few decades.
How much do you blame anyone for the circumstances of their lives? We are all shaped by things outside our control.
Are you talking about Silver specifically? Because yeah. The only thing that surprises me is the anger and the insults.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zarbonius
That's specifically what I am referring to, yes. The willingness to entertain conspiracy thinking has always been there (in a much more benign way), but the outright hostility is way out of character.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wool
My memory is rusty - but I think he was this way during Russia's first invasion in 2014, especially after Russia shot down MH17Quote:
Originally Posted by Zarbonius
Wow, I did not know you were Ukrainian. Are you 1st generation American or is it longer? It is amazing what they have managed to accomplish with far fewer resources in the past year. They certainly couldn't have done it without help, but they have been smart with how their resources have been applied.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninetoes
2nd generation - my granfather came from Kyiv originally, then MinskQuote:
Originally Posted by Dramadon
The thread for the first invasion in 2014. Don't mind "MH17" being highlighted, that's the search I used to find it. Looks like Silverblade was more of an apologist and "but both sides" person then versus the active hostility being shown now.
And I know this isn't the "total economic collapse is imminent" thread, but from that linked thread....
We're almost at the NINE YEAR ANNIVERSARY of that comment. NINE YEARS OF BEING WRONG. AREN'T YOU TIRED OF BEING BELLIGERENTLY WRONG YET?Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade, March 7, 2014
Ahem. Sorry, back to the normal thread topic, which according to Silverblade's title is... how this is a "false flag" war. Discuss!
Very sorry to hear by the way. The older I get the more I begin to hear about people suffering from dementia, and I find it horribly sad, and absolutely terrifying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zarbonius
It is heartbreaking to see the atrocities Putin is inflicting on Ukraine, but also inspiring to witness the solemn determination of her people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninetoes
Slava Ukraini! Heroiam slava!
Well we have a history of Russian trying to kill us - Holodomor comes to mind. But we are still here!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nerkahia
Slava Ukraini! Heroiam Slava!
So this is a thing that happened...
ICC issues an arrest warrant for Putin in response to Russia's War Crimes in Ukraine.
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The ICC said in a statement that Putin “is allegedly responsible for the war crime of unlawful deportation of (children) and that of unlawful transfer of (children) from occupied areas of Ukraine to the Russian Federation.”
Now, in practical terms, its more ceremonial than realistic, given that Russia does not recognize the ICC. However I think it as important step internationally in recognition of Russia's many crimes in the illegal invasion of Ukraine.Quote:
The court also issued a warrant for the arrest of Maria Lvova-Belova, the commissioner for Children’s Rights in the Office of the President of the Russian Federation. The AP reported on her involvement in the abduction of Ukrainian orphans in October, in the first investigation to follow the process all the way to Russia, relying on dozens of interviews and documents.
Slava Ukraini, Heroim Slava
Well Mr. War Criminal himself just paid a surprise visit to Mariupol, I have no doubts this was a direct reply to the fact that Biden visited Kyiv.
I suspect they had full and very very heavy security since there are disruption operations happening in occupied areas, damn imagine if even just one sniper could get a clear angle and bagged Putin.
As tempting as that is - I want him in chaIns before the world. I want the world to see what a monster he is, and his apologists to realize the enormity of their errors. None of which will happen, I can dream.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilanFyretracker
WOOOO HOOOO! the nukes are coming! HALLELUJAH!
yes indeedy all you fucking lunatics who ignored reality and wanted Russia killed, well prepare for some "Instant Sunshine"
WHY?
Cause the lunatics in Poland just announced they will step into the Ukrainian conflict if Ukraine loses
now why oh why should the think Ukraine will lose if everything is "A-1, Russia is losing" as the Western liars say, hm?
Oh and shows Poles really want Western Ukraine back, knife in the back but then again the Poles have along memory of what Bandera's murdering scum did...and it's all old feuds and BS, they want the "Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth" back and quite a few in a part of Ukraine in that area would like it too.
Hope yer all happy to see yer family die for some fucking insane feuds going back 400 bloody years :(
https://news.yahoo.com/polish-ambass...201021342.html
Note Poland has already requested US nukes to be based thereQuote:
Polish Ambassador to France: Poland will be forced to enter war if Ukraine fails to defend itself
Poland’s Ambassador to France Jan Emeryk Rościszewski said in an interview that a situation could arise in which Poland would have to enter the war. The embassy urged audiences to refrain from sensationalising his words
oh and THIS lovely little thing happened:
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/202.../1981-m18.html
Flew within 30km of Kalingrad (Russian exclave)
So of course Russia downed a US drone that turned off its transponder and got so close to Sevastopol that when it crashed, the Russians divers could go pick it's remains up faster than Romanian/Bulgarian helicopters could
"international waters" my ass.
And America can't morally say jack fuck, because:
a) it show down Chinese WEATHER balloons, remember their own evidence showed that's all they were but oddly enough really downplayed that
AND some kids balloon
made hysterics about these "spy balloons!", as a move to war with China, you know, like "Iraq has WMD" ?
Go on, keep fucking around and see what happens to us all...sigh
"MUSHROOMS FOR EVERYONE!"
I thought it'd be Trump that gave us all some Instant Sunshine but nope, "President Shitty Pants" is well on the way to do it
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PS "Russia are stealing children!"
oh so they are rescuing kids form a war zone where Ukrainian extremists have murdered 14,000 CIVILIANS over past 8 years, but it's "evil"?!
And what scumbags chose to fight inside their own cities? UKRAINIANS!
And who told them to do so, resulting in Ukrainian cities getting flattened? American scumbags, that's who
And for those morons who still think the "Russians are evil committing genocide! Bombing all civilians!"
Well how the fuck are all those Western leaders having fucking photo ops in Kiev, then, hm?
yer brainwashed, and zealot nuts like Ninetoes will lead you to yer deaths, FFS!
WAKE UP!
"Oh look, it wasn't US who bombed Nord Stream!
It was the unknown Ukrainian One Armed divers from a pleasure boat!"
:fap: :fap: :fap: :banghead: :banghead: :penguin:
I mean, those children and the other civilians would not BE in a war zone had Russia not illegally invaded.
Russia just has to leave Ukraine, and the war goes away.
Someone once said "We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender."Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
Hard to blame a people for resisting.
Silver is really into victim blaming - it's a delightful addition to his anti-Semitism. He conveniently ignores that the Ukrainians wouldn't BE in a combat zone if Russia had not invaded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tagoe
Yes, I called you an anti-Semite Silverblade - what else do you call someone who accuses a Ukrainian Jew of supporting Nazis?
That you call someone advocating for Ukrainian self determination and against an illegal, immoral war is rather telling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
There is a very simplistic way to end this war. Putin accepts the L and completely removes his forces from Ukraine.
Putin's own stupidity has cost him dearly, His currency is garbage, his oligarchs are losing money or falling out windows, Tons of lives, a massive brain drain of people fled to avoid conscription. Before this idiotic invasion he had basically free reign of the EU energy markets from gas to oil.
Kazakhstan apparently seized a bunch of stuff at a portion of Baikonur Cosmodrome due to unpaid debts.
https://www.wired.com/story/russias-...n-big-trouble/
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Russia now using almost 80 year old tanks to cover armor losses in Ukraine
Man that is just some 4D thinking on Russia's art - they are winning so hard that they have to bring out almost 80 year old tanks. Clear sign they are kicking ass ;)Quote:
It’s a deeply ominous sign for Russian tank crews that the Kremlin has begun pulling 70-year-old T-54 and T-55 tanks out of long-term storage—presumably in order to recondition them for front-line service in Ukraine, 40 years after the Soviet army retired the types.
The T-54 and its slightly more modern derivative, the T-55, aren’t quite World War II tanks, but they’re close. The T-54 first appeared in 1946. The T-55 arrived 12 years later.
Just 13 years after that, the 40-ton, four-person tanks with their 100-millimeter rifled guns, 200-millimeter steel armor, 500-horsepower engines in early models and crude optics already were obsolete compared to contemporary Western designs.
Riddle for folks - wanna guess what happens when a T55 gets hit with a 120 mm Sabot round? A hole in it and the 3 tanks behind it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7mKuD0qw7U&ab_channel=MikeKalashinikov
A clear sign of Russia's manufacturing might.
EDIT: more proof of Russia's manufacturing might: Russia unable to meet arms delivery targets with India.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/24/i...hnk/index.html
5D chess
how many Ds of chess does Russia have left?, they are running out of boards and pieces.
Thankfully, this is highly unlikely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
Nuclear weapons require a ridiculous amount of very regular, very delicate, very expensive maintenance to stay functional.
They're also, while absolutely horrifying, not anywhere close to as deadly as movies and television have portrayed them for decades.
Hell, back in the 50's and 60's people would gather in vegas to drink atomic cocktails (that's equal parts vodka and brandy shaken with a small amount of sherry, strained, and mixed with dry champagne and an orange wedge) and watch mushroom clouds from the tests nearby.
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At this point, the vast majority of nuclear weapons in the world are less likely to function properly than a scud missile in gulf war 1 and while the concept of one actually working is terrifying, it's not that much more terrifying than carpet bombing, shelling cities with tanks, or performing drone strikes.
Well if their record of maintenance of tanks is any indication, their nukes will just blow up in the silo
MerrickQuote:
Originally Posted by Merrick ap'Milandra
that is so full of crap I don't know where to start, sigh
You know those tests they did in the 1950s, you know "Civil Defence" blowing up buildings etc?
Did you notice they did them in a FLAT desert with a reflective surface, hm?
nearly all the heat energy was NOT absorbed into the complex 3d structure of a city, as a starter
real cities have tens of thousands of vehicles loaded with fuel, and while Hollywood way over blows (lol) the way fuel tanks blow, in some circumstances it DOES happen, like a thermonuclear weapon heat pulse then blast (which is red hot to start by the way) throwing vehicles THROUGH buildings
think about it please :)
they also did it as a publicity stunt: "See, we're perfectly safe folks!"
BULL FUCKING SHIT!
EMP direct localized or, space based continental area of effect, will trigger a vast amount of fires
home circuits are NOT rated to take 100kv to 500kilovolts! not even the substations can take that crap
so, fires will break out in many homes unless you disconnect your main breakers and get lucky (blowing transformers may short it out enough, voltages like that can jump 30 metre gaps by the way, the main power lines will VAPOURIZE)
streets will be blocked by cars damaged or abandoned, fire brigades will be screwed
another factor is that many military targets like airbases, will require a LOW airbursts, under 1000 metres
to produce maximum horizontal "Push" force for destruction of buildings and vehicles
this increases fallout
ICBMs and other really hardened targets will be hit by ground bursts, radiation from those is dire because so MANY nukes will go off plus risk of contamination from wrecked warheads
Worst of all is surface or subsurface bursts in salt or brackish water, i.e., naval/sub bases and approaches to those to take out subs and ships at dock or leaving, say the Salish Sea up near Vancouver, Seattle, Chesapeake bay etc
See US 1946 "Baker bomb" test Bikini, Operation Hurricane first UK nuke, and Castle Bravo disaster for why water bursts are so dirty
While a large nation like the USA, the distances will allow many people to avoid harmful effects, but those near urban areas are FUCKED :(
Oh and the Russian "Poseidon" weapons which Alikat claimed "they couldn't make!" why do fuckwits think only the US can build stuff, FFS! hey Bezos and NASA relied on Russian rockets because they make the best :banghead:
Poseidon would do NOT make a "radioactive tsunami, no, its much worse, the fireball lifts all that filth from the initial detonation, and the nuclear reactor that powers it (and I bet they run a uranium tamper into it to trigger prompt criticalities ergo more fallout they don't need a cobalt jacket, fission products are WORSE)
neutrons from the event will convert atoms for a fair distance around into radioactive isotopes and get lifted in the millions of tons of super heated water now plasma, which in salt/brackish polluted industrial waters is VERY VERY BAD INDEED
fallout will likely be lethal to 600+ miles, again, go see Castle bravo, and make it much bigger , much dirtier
the tsunami cannot have the volume of a fault slip, so no it cannot wipe out entire oceans, but within 200km and way up rivers/valleys, oh yer fucked
map of likely effect of nuclear exchange on America
those who don't have water/food medicines etc are fucked
i have warned you all strange as you may think it I don't want you to suffer
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Well the Russian missiles would actually have to work first, and given that they are using 70+ year old tanks - not betting heavily on that.
Low level air burst showing the massively increased "Push" of the blast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dflLFFZcZ0w
I have major doubts on anything going nuclear. Putin loves to commit warcrimes and have civilians killed but he knows Moscow disappears if he plays the nuclear card.
I am starting to wonder if he cares.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilanFyretracker
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Originally Posted by Ninetoes
Wanna bet your FAMILY on that?
are you THAT stupid?
What the fuck was in the crayons you were eating in service, lead?! :p
Note who's got the only combat proven hypersonic cruise missiles: Russia
Anyone with a clue knows they make the best missiles, they have the best titanium and scandium alloy manufacturing systems
So, is Russia a useless incompetent ass backward nation who's stuff doesn't work and no one should be afraid of (yet NATO is going nuts and failing to stop)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninetoes
or
is Putin a raging psycho and in that case why piss him off when he's got nukes?!
Both things can be true -Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
Russia's a paper tiger (I know your narrative has jumped from Russia wont invade to NATO is secretly forcing Russia to invade to whathefuckever drivel you are spouting today) Ukrainians are defending their country from the illegal Russian invasion
AND
Putin is a raging psychopath
why piss him off? because IMO its morally right to help Ukraine defend itself from this invasion.
You would think...but then we have Putin quislings like Chomsky, Waters and Silverblade.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilanFyretracker
That one boggles the mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninetoes
Setting aside for the moment that his parents were Askenazic Jewish Immigrants, how the fuck do ANY of his self-declared political stances line up with simping for that authoritarian asshat?
Like..
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Anarcho-syndicalism is centered on the idea that power corrupts and that any hierarchy that cannot be ethically justified must be dismantled
Someone invent a psychic treadmill because the mental gymnastics involved in ascribing to stuff like that and in any way condoning anything about Putin could remove our dependence on precious metals for batteries.Quote:
libertarian socialism rejects the state's control of the economy under state socialism. The core tenets of libertarian socialism are decentralization, democracy, popular sovereignty and individual liberty.
Right Wingers are not the only ones who simp for authoritarian regimes - the far left have always been all about Mother Russia. The genocide denial in respect to something like the Holodomor is their constant whataboutism that fails to address Russia's actions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Merrick ap'Milandra
Hell, ostensibly progressive leftist The Young Turks were all about denying the Armenian Genocide until it became financially untenable to do so.
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Originally Posted by The Hubris Of America
https://www.firstpost.com/world/japa...-12398062.html
https://www.reuters.com/business/ene...ts-2023-04-03/
and I could go on in that vein , as countries ditch the USA and it's Dollar
Syria, Turkey, Iran and Saudi Arabia are basically telling the US to get the fuck out of Syria where the US in it's "peace loving mission of freedom and democracy" has been stealing tens of thousands of barrels of oil each day, while supporting ISIS and other scum
Oh and America's vaunted plans to make hypersonic cruise missiles...failed once more
Ain't it funny who "ass backward, gas station economy" Russia, which supposedly has to use second hand washing machine chips to make missiles, is the only one who developed such technology, hm?
Oh and gave it to the Chinese.
Again:
HOW MANY PLAGUES ON YOUR HOUSE WILL IT TAKE TO BREAK THROUGH YOUR ARROGANCE, hm?
Yeesh! :(
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Chomsky, a "Quisling", JFC....have you lot lost the plot :wtf: :rolleyes:
So it's been just a little over a year since the Bucha Massacre.
For those who forgot or didn't know:
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The Bucha massacre (Ukrainian: Бучанська різанина, romanized: Buchanska rizanyna) was the mass murder of Ukrainian civilians and prisoners of war[12] by the Russian Armed Forces during the fight for and occupation of the city of Bucha as part of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Photographic and video evidence of the massacre emerged on 1 April 2022 after Russian forces withdrew from the city.
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According to local authorities, 458 bodies have been recovered from the town, including 9 children under the age of 18; among the victims, 419 people were killed by weapons and 39 appeared to have died of natural causes, possibly related to the occupation.
Bucha is one of the reasons Putin has been charged by the ICC for war crimes, but it is not the only place.Quote:
Photos showed corpses of civilians, lined up with their hands bound behind their backs, shot at point-blank range, which ostensibly gave proof that summary executions had taken place.[18] An inquiry by Radio Free Europe reported the use of a basement beneath a campground as a torture chamber.[19][20] Many bodies were found mutilated and burnt,[21][22] and girls as young as fourteen reported being raped by Russian soldiers.
My favourite part of the whole Trump saga today was when he started ranting about how Biden will start World War III with his support of Ukraine. Like, if Silverblade can't figure this thing out when he sees DONALD TRUMP repeating his talking points, word for word, he never will get it.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65225985
article on that huge Pentagon doc leak.
You know its probably wrong for me to think this way but one of the first thoughts I had was "I wonder if any Qanons in the Congress are on an intel committee or have clearance? they love Russia and hate that we are supporting Ukraine, seems like motive".
It likely wouldn't cover foreign affairs like this, but Marjorie Taylor Greene is on Homeland Security. If she can be assigned to that, I'm sure one of those nutters is on a committee with access to this.
Head cut off with knife: Russian media report that video shows Wagner Group mercenaries
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The Wagner Group private military company (PMC) was involved in the murder of a Ukrainian prisoner of war, whose head was cut off while he was still alive, said Vladimir Osechkin, founder of the Russian human rights organization Gulagu.net.
Source: Russian news agency Meduza; Osechkin on the YouTube channel Khodorkovsky LiveQuote from Osechkin: "We contacted Andrei Medvedev, the former commander of the first squad of the 4th platoon of the 7th assault squad of the Wagner PMC, who is currently in a deportation prison in Sweden. In Sweden, the detainees have access to mobile phones and computers. We sent him this video. He watched it several times. And he definitely recognises his colleagues, Wagner's PMC fighters, by their distinctive aliases, the way they speak, what they say on the radio, and other things."
Details: He also announced a reward of €3,000 for any information about the people in the video to identify the killer and the person filming the execution.
The sum is also planned to be increased with the help of donations to identify the killers and bring them to justice.
Osechkin recalled that similar brutal murders have already been committed by Wagner PMC fighters; there is a video on the Internet of Wagner's men killing a prisoner with a sledgehammer in Syria, as well as a video of them dismembering a body.
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- On the evening of 11 April, a video of the brutal murder of a Ukrainian prisoner was posted on social media. The footage shows a Russian soldier cutting off the head of a Ukrainian defender, who was still alive at the time, with a knife.
- The Security Service of Ukraine (SSU) has launched a pre-trial investigation into the brutal murder of a Ukrainian prisoner. The head of the SSU stated that security forces would find the monsters who did this, even from underground.
- President Volodymyr Zelenskyy called on world leaders to respond to the video of Russian occupiers cutting off the head of a Ukrainian prisoner.
Father of girl who drew anti-war art extradited to Russia
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The father of a Russian girl sent to an orphanage after drawing an antiwar sketch at school has been extradited from Belarus back to Russia, a human rights group reported Wednesday. He faces two years in prison there.
Alexei Moskalyov fled house arrest just before his sentencing hearing last month in the town of Yefremov, south of Moscow. He was detained in Belarus two days later. According to the Belarusian human rights center Viasna, when visitors tried to find Moskalyov in a Belarussian prison on Wednesday, they were told he had been extradited to Russia.
Moskalyov, 54 was charged over social media posts criticizing the war in Ukraine under a law adopted days after Russian troops invaded in February 2022. He rejected the accusations.
In a case that drew international outrage, the father of 13-year-old Maria Moskalyova was convicted of discrediting the Russian military and handed a two-year prison term, while his daughter was dispatched to an orphanage.
According to his lawyer and supporters, Moskalyov’s troubles began after his daughter drew a picture at Yefremov School No. 9 that depicted missiles flying over a Russian flag at a woman and child. The drawing also featured the words “No to war” and “Glory to Ukraine.” Moskalyov was fined and convicted over his social media posts.
The Kremlin has been cracking down on dissent, targeting anyone who criticizes the war.
Queue Silverblade blaming the US for this *somehow* or playing whataboutism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ackar
not surprise the father got handed over, Belarus is buddy buddy with Putin. Well at least they are in the government sense, No clue what the people think of being buddy with Russia.
Whinge, lies, bullshit to excuse America's insane warmongering as usual!
"But think of the children!" and an incident, real or not, self inflicted by the CIA or not, where some suffer, is used to justify actions that kill hundreds of thousands or even millions
You know, like the terrorism in Vietnam, Lockerbie Bombing, Beirut Barrack bombings, 9/11, my my so many convenient excuses for America's wars!
this is America's reality
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And this is one of the chief psychopathic bastards behind World War Three, oh look, another Ukrainian at the heart of it, who'd a thunk it?
Talk about "The Face Of Evil!" yeesh!
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These "leaks" should clue you in that I was right, again, as usual
The Ukrainians have an online "hit list", believe I've mentioned that, funny thing is, it's website is hosted in Langley, Virginia, USA...oh who'd a thunk it?!
And you know who they added to that list of "enemies of Ukraine", hm?
US politician, Rand Paul, for daring to question why all those billions should be wasted on an insane war that cannot be won
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myrotvorets
You complacent idiots supported the Iraq, Syrian and other wars as well as dozens of coups...how'd those turn out, what was the truith when finally revealed, hm?
But this conflict is very different, the American Empire has, like Wile Coyote, run out of road, and is on the way down due to it's own bloody hubris, sigh
Save yourselves and your families while you still can
Damn, it's so much fun when I am right :)
Ukraine investigating video of Russian troops beheading Ukrainian soldier/
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Russia is facing new accusations of war crimes in Ukraine after two videos emerged online in the past week of what appear to be Russian soldiers beheading Ukrainian prisoners of war. The first video, which initially circulated on Russian Telegram channels, seems to show a Russian soldier using a knife to decapitate a still-alive man in a Ukrainian military uniform as a group of Russian soldiers look on. In another video of what seems to be a separate event, footage purportedly taken by Russian mercenaries with the paramilitary Wagner Group shows the beheaded bodies of two Ukrainian soldiers next to a destroyed military vehicle.
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Russian forces have a documented history of committing atrocities—against both civilians and prisoners of war—in Ukraine since their February 2022 invasion. The International Criminal Court last month issued an arrest warrant for Russian President Vladimir Putin over his unlawful deportation of Ukrainian children to Russia. Ukrainian troops have also been credibly accused of war crimes, including the killing of captured Russian soldiers, though on a vastly smaller scale than Russian forces. Importantly, Ukraine’s government has opened investigations into alleged incidents by its own forces. The Kremlin, by contrast, has lavished praise on its war fighters for their actions. Most notably, Putin awarded the 64th Separate Guards Motor Rifle Brigade last April for its fighting in Bucha, Ukraine, where mass graves of massacred civilians were discovered after Russian forces withdrew from the city.
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Who... who exactly do you think is posting here, Silver?Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
I mean, you're raging against the injustices perpetrated by Western nations. Yes, we all get that.
But you are a citizen of the UK, just like I am a citizen of Canada, and Baelan is a citizen of the US.
None of us are driving international policy for our respective nations. I'd wager that none of us are within shouting distance of being able to influence anyone who is able to influence anyone who might be able to make a suggestion about regional policy, much less foreign affairs.
So why are you shitting on us, exactly? Will you continue holding us here at Graffe's accountable for the sins of our political leaders until those leaders see the light and change their ways? Does that make any sense? Or is this just about finding a convenient target to abuse? An outlet for your rage against the world, that you can justify to yourself as somehow deserving of that abuse.
One post, I could understand. Two, three? Sure, you're caught up in the issues and lose your head. But this has been going on for the last few years. Not the raging at the policies or the leaders. The shitting on US RIGHT HERE as though WE are responsible for it.
What. The. Fuck. Are. You. Thinking.
EDIT - Metaphorically, you are the dad who has a bad day at work so he comes home and beats the shit out of his kid, because he needs a target. Do you realize that?
Yeah, how's that working out? Ready to come over to the other side yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zarbonius, post#26, Trump Indicted thread
For people who don't speak Silverblade: he's saying that Ackar's two posted articles are distractions, potentially lies (with the hint that the beheading could be a CIA false flag). He's calling just about every bad thing that has sent America to war false flags - I'm honestly surprised he didn't add Pearl Harbor to his list. He's calling America bloodthirsty by highlighting a "quote" by a Democrat which she actually never said (and if one were to look into it, one would discover the 500 K figure was manipulated by Saddam Hussein). He then makes fun of the appearance of another Democrat woman and implies that both were warmongers because they were Ukrainian (even though Albright was a Czech whose mother was Ukrainian, and Victoria Nuland is an American whose paternal grandparents are Ukrainian - close enough I guess?)
In the next post, he talks about how the recent leaked documents prove him right when the exact opposite is true, he comes to the defense of Republican Rand Paul, he insinuates that the Ukrainian group responsible for the online hit list is a CIA puppet because of where the web site is hosted, and then uses a phrase straight out of Kremlin propaganda, "American empire", before hinting that Russia will nuke America's cities.
But he's not getting his information from right-wing conspiracy sites that are infested with Russian propaganda. No, sir. This is all independent thought here.
The Gish Gallop is one issue, and I stand by my approach on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delores Mulva
The constant abuse is another, and I am now addressing it directly (see previous post).
Don't forget the part where he accused a Ukrainian Jew of being a Nazi sympathizer.
And per his last post or the one right before, evidently Ukrainians are his new boogeyman when he can't blame the Jews.
again also, None of this would have happened if Russia stayed out of a country that is not theirs.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65269975 feds grabbed a suspect in the documents leak.
Putin will destroy Russia before anyone in the West does.
The irony of posting this from within the Evil Empire is just too much, considering the context of what exactly you were replying to. Being punished for protesting a war is itself war-mongering. Now I've heard everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
Pretty sure I've tried this argument before; didn't work for me either. I feel like it started after people began giving detailed explanations for why he is wrong, merely than simply brushing him off. Take that as you will. Dmitry is far harsher with him and he just laughs it off.Quote:
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Happy Moskva Sinking Day to all who celebrate!
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Damn you. I was drinking coffee.
I don't know that he's crossed into explicit anti-Semitism. His sources are big on dogwhistles, and he may not be getting what they're laying down. This isn't just wishful thinking; he was genuinely surprised and remorseful when he crossed the line and got reported for some other slur a while back, one which was likely being used by his sources without any sort of issue. But the Ukrainian thing, yeah, it's getting uncomfortable, like "Grandma telling me what they used to call Brazil nuts" uncomfortable. I'm hoping he pulls back from it, because that's one slippery slope he's on.Quote:
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Would it be irony if I followed up a "ooh, he needs to lay off the stereotyping" paragraph with a "this is my shocked face" statement about the leaker's background and politics? It is interesting that even conservative groups are split on this. Reddit's /Conservative subreddit, which is about as right-wing as it gets, is over 50% opposed to Marjorie Taylor Greene defending this guy's actions. Only the most hardcore anti-war amongst them are in favour, and only concerning the part about American boots being on the ground there (which was already known). Perhaps the guy who told kids on the "Thug Shake Central" Discord classified secrets wasn't doing it to avoid nuclear war, but just to impress fellow gamers? Maybe you don't glorify that guy? He's no Snowden.Quote:
Originally Posted by Filan
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...robe-rcna79675 is the article
And so one can avoid Twitter completely the article even has it quoted.
You are the enemy Greene, You support Jan6. And you support this guy, Being anti-war is holding a sign outside the white house and a bullhorn, its calling your senator to express your dislike for things, its making a comment about it online. However it is not leaking highly classified documents.Quote:
“Jake Teixeira is white, male, christian, and antiwar. That makes him an enemy to the Biden regime. And he told the truth about troops being on the ground in Ukraine and a lot more,” Greene, a member of the Homeland Security Committee, said on Twitter. "Ask yourself who is the real enemy?”
I simply can't understand how this peon in the National Guard even was able to get hold of these documents so he could leak them. I mean, WTF. I guess it will be revealed eventually, but no matter what it just seems there is more to it.Quote:
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Cause he could NEVER HAVE GOT HOLD OF THEM AT ALL, AND IS A PATSY!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonlainy
Jeesh folk, wake up before you die in a nuclear fireball :(
Those documents were not only highly classified, they were from different departments
So however had the physical documents managed to avoid extremely tight rules that prevent such documents being taken out to where they can be photoed, rules that prevent them being amassed in one spot except for the very highest echelons of government...etc
You cannot even have a mobile phone or camera in areas or even buildings where such documents are kept
Someone on high leaked these, and this poor bastard has been set up to satiate the fear/anger of the Mob (in Congress, the Deep State or dipshits who believe the "Party Line"...and as I keep saying it's not about GOP/Dems, they're all in it together)
Various suppositions on why it was leaked include:
- A way to ease the Public, or give excuse, for when Ukraine surrenders, oh yes, it's coming, anyone who thinks otherwise is a fucking utter moron, balance of forces etc.
Fact Russians went in with such a small force right at start should have clued anyone with a working "free will" that things were very very far from what we were told by our media/leaders- Some folks know the lunatics in DC constant escalation risks an actual nuclear exchange and thus some group/individual are/is desperate to stop this rolling train wreck going full Armageddon
[QUOTE=Ninetoes;1922500]Happy Moskva Sinking Day to all who celebrate!
as noted in some of the leaks, the casualty figures are 7:1 in the Russian's favour.
Grow up.
Oh and from trials of some of those involved in the 9/11 atrocity, well guess what?
The US intelligence services WERE involved, by omission or commission of action, we will have to wait and see
And that's from DoD lawyers.
Fucking told ye so.
sigh :(
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So just going to ignore the Russian war crimes again? If it were US troops you'd be frothing at the mouth, but since it's the Russians you are a goddamn mute.
Math is hardQuote:
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1) WE have already shown the 7:1 figure is a lie
2) What has any of your blather have to do with the sinking of the Moskva - regardless of casualty numbers, IT STILL GOT FUCKING SUNK.
So you are saying US Forces were outed as sinking the Moskva before it happened? Or the morelikely, you are going on about something thats likely untrue and has nothing to do with Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
I think he's responding to me saying that he's calling just about everything a false flag back in post#380, by defending his 9/11 Truther stuff. But as we saw with him directly quoting Tucker Carlson, his sources for this information are actively malevolent. If Silverblade straight-up made stuff up without reading the Internet first, it would be better than what he believes.
It's worse than "math is hard". That would be an honest mistake. This is propaganda, pure and simple. And the "WAKE UP" guy is swallowing all of it uncritically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninetoes
I was being a smartass ;)
Yeah man, we gotta get you out of Scotland. Russian state TV basically describes Scotland and the rest of the UK as a hellscape. Stuff about how you guys only have squirrels to eat and are constantly on the verge of cannibalism. Citizens can't go outside as they are under threat from LGBTG+, being attacked and harassed. Russia also says Ukrainians are being used as slaves by the West (UK+US), which is why Russian advisor (Sergei Markov, 2022) said they'd nuke UK cities throughout the UK (yeah Scotland too).Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
I am sure the folks here had no idea you had it that bad. So let's do something about it. Let's get you to Russia. Perhaps we can set up a GoFundMe to get you there.
My cousin speaks fluent Russian (as he worked there in the past) and could get you a recommendation for a job (requirement) and likely still has some connections. You type and speak English, so he could definitely get you one too. In addition, I am sure your viewpoints align better with Russia anyway, so that's helpful for a position as well.
https://iasservices.org.uk/moving-to-russia-from-uk/
What do you say?
Go model something. Make art like you used to. Do the things you love, or used to love.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblade-T-E
Stop reading whatever the hell it is you are reading.
Stop watching whatever the hell it is you are watching.
It is poison.
Poison.
And it is killing you.