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See post above yoursQuote:
Originally Posted by Eremius
Wow. It seemed like he was doing so well with his recovery, too.
I did not before posting :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by PPatty
He could have been perfectly sober. He played two hours of pickleball, then went home and got in the hot tub. Depending on temperature and how long he was in it, someone with his health history could easily have either had a heart attack or passed out when he went to stand up. Both of those situations could lead to him drowning. We'll have to wait on the autopsy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mileron
I hope so for his sake just in the hopes that he got to enjoy some more life without dependency.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delores Mulva
It's no less of a tragedy either way, though. 54 is too young.
Throw a chair tonight to remember him:
Legendary basketball coach Bob Knight dies at 83
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukpekodCQ-U
https://apnews.com/article/rosalynn-...d9d1da461d95c1
Rosalynn Carter, outspoken former first lady, dead at 96
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Henry Kissinger 100
https://apnews.com/article/henry-kis...863c219cee77e8
Henry Kissinger, secretary of state under Presidents Nixon and Ford, dies at 100
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Unfortunately, it seems that for that bit of happy cheer, someone elected to trade in Shane MacGowan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Merkus
https://news.sky.com/story/the-pogue...at-65-13008760
At the graveside of Cúchulainn we'll kneel around and pray
And God is in his Heaven and Billy's down by the bay
Meanwhile, in a bit of happenstance:Quote:
Originally Posted by Merrick ap'Milandra
https://www.independent.ie/irish-new...615346112.html
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Boys of the NYPD Choir finally sing Galway Bay
It is one of the spinetingling moments in The Pogues’ legendary Christmas song ‘Fairytale of New York’, as Shane MacGowan croons: “The boys of the NYPD Choir were singing Galway Bay...”
However, it is well known that that there never was an NYPD choir to sing ‘Galway Bay’.
Now the Epic Museum in Dublin has decided to make it come true – by bringing together a group of retired New York police officers to form the ‘NYPD Choir’ in a touching tribute to Irish emigrants and the global Irish diaspora.
Just in time for Christmas, the NYPD Choir was joined by a group of local amateur singers as they gathered in a recording studio in New York City to sing ‘Galway Bay’.
...
Meanwhile, Epic is also launching an exhibition with Hot Press entitled ‘They Gave The Walls a Talking – The Extraordinary Story of The Pogues and Shane MacGowan’ .
It will be an exploration of various themes, such as ‘songs of emigration’ and ‘the creation of Fairytale of New York’, which has been named the most played Christmas song of the 21st century.
“The Pogues are one of the greatest Irish bands of all time,” said Nathan Mannion, head of exhibitions and programmes at Epic. “They were part of an increasingly successful wave of Irish emigrant artists who made it big in Britain in the 1980s and ‘They Gave the Walls a Talking’ charts the marvellously wild, fiercely fiery, sometimes drunken and – in the end – wonderfully inspiring contribution The Pogues have made to music in Ireland and across the world,” he added.
The exhibition will open on December 1 and run until the end of January 2024.
How would the pool score if the subject comes back to life? Scientists to bring the Dodo bird back:
https://www.cnn.com/dodo-de-extincti...scn/index.html
They still died before. No rule that says you can't double dip, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Delores Mulva
Per rules of the thread we have not made any against resurrection or necromancy
https://www.tmz.com/2023/12/12/andre...-dead-died-61/
Andre Braugher at 61. Probably best known for Homicide: Life on the Street and Brooklyn 9-9.
Or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Me, about Matthew Perry
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/15/enter...ort/index.html
At best, he tried to self-medicate using drugs he was already taking for legitimate purposes and OD'ed. At worst, he was using ketamine recreationally and didn't realize how it would interact with his medical conditions and other medications in his system.
Apollo Creed KO'd for the final time:
https://news.yahoo.com/sports/footba...194311167.html
when I read of this yesterday, I was, for the first time in regards to a celebrity, deeply saddened for the first time in a very long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by PPatty
The last celeb to have this effect on me was perhaps Robin Williams.
Some relationships with celebrities simply do not need explanation, such as with Robin.
With Carl Weathers, the very first film I saw that was rated R was Predator.
I couldn't understand all of its korea/vietnam nuances, but I could understand how Weathers made a great antagonist.
He looked cool, he was fierce, he was confident, but just a little restrained in almost every role. It made him convincing. He was a commercials guy, but he knew it was his lifestyle, so his characters did to. He was an entire set of character actor in the most simple of forms.
It wasn't until about 10 years ago that I only just watched the first Rocky.
He played such a convincing villain, but one that didn't give any reason to stand against him.
Every single one of his roles of notoriety played to an idea that was just *fun* to see him take the role in.
I am saddened that we will ne'er see him in something new again.
Probably not one that people had on their bingo cards. Toby Keith 62 to cancer.
https://6abc.com/did-toby-keith-pass...ncer/14390405/
On another board I used to frequent, they do a death pool which some participants take very seriously. Like, people do research, and produce lists for the year (it's pick 12, score (100-age at time of death) points for each one that passes) that are filled with Australian football coaches and wives of former tennis players*, people just famous enough to have a Wikipedia page that isn't just about the late stage cancer they all have (the qualifier for "famous"). This year, they have 31 people competing. Three of them had Toby Keith on their lists. So some people were expecting this.
* This is the list for the guy who usually wins:
1. Theo Burrell - Antiques Road Show host, in late 30's, stage 4 brain cancer.
2. Mohammed Deif - Israel's most wanted terrorist, 58, just added to Europe's blacklist last year.
3. Shannen Doherty - actress, 52, stage 4 breast cancer that has spread to her brain and bones (announced in November).
4. Derek Draper - DEAD January 3, age 56: British political lobbyist and author, had long COVID and suffered a cardiac incident in December that put him back in hospital.
5. Jonnie Irwin - DEAD Feb. 2, age 50: British TV presenter (A Place In The Sun), terminal lung cancer that had been announced in 2022.
6. Erik Jensen - actor and playwright, 53, announced stage four colorectal cancer in October.
7. Steve McMichael - former pro wrestler, 66, diagnosed with ALS in 2021.
8. Dikembe Mutombo - former NBA player, 57, diagnosed with brain tumor October 2022.
9. Linda Nolan - singer (The Nolans), 64, breast cancer from 2006 metastasized to her brain in March 2023 (incurable to pelvis in 2017), has stated she would reject chemo for terminal cancer because of what it did to her deceased husband.
10. Princess Bajrakitiyabha - Thai princess, 45, collapsed due to heart condition Dec. 2022, has been in coma since Aug. 2023.
11. James Whale - British radio personality, 72, kidney cancer from 2000 was revealed to have spread to his spine, brain, and lungs in August 2020.
12. Bridgette Wilson - actress and former Miss Teen USA (married to Pete Sampras), 50, diagnosed with ovarian cancer December 2022.
So the guy already has 2 of his 12 picks dead, and we're barely into February.
I thought Steve McMichael was already dead. Also, I like how he's described as "former pro wrestler," which he was for about a few years in the late '90s, as opposed to highlighting his 14-year pro football career that includes two All-Pro nods and starting for the '85 Bears, one of the most ballyhooed defenses in NFL history.
I added the descriptions. I saw he was one of the Four Horsemen at some point, called him a former wrestler.
I suspect a lot of longtime wrestling fans would agree that Mongo McMichael joining marked the beginning of the end for the Horsemen’s relevance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delores Mulva
That does look like a solid list
Mojo Nixon.
DAMMIT.
And now a football HoFer.Quote:
Originally Posted by PPatty
He left an indelible mark on the American palette:
William ‘Bill’ Post, inventor of Pop Tarts, dies aged 96
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1L18vH8v5E
Just in time for this fiscal year!
Place your bets! Everyone gets two marks. . . before the show begins!Attachment 6853
So young to just collapse like that while walking. I wonder what the cause of death was?
Alexei Navalny, vocal critic of Vladimir Putin, dies in prison: Russian government
“Sudden death syndrome”Quote:
Originally Posted by PPatty
I am kind of surprised nobody has mentioned Richard Lewis yet.
I think he arrived on my radar from the sitcom Anything But Love
I learned about it when one of my whack job FB friends posted it as clear evidence that vaccinations kill people. He was 76. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Eremius
Le sigh.
I wasn't aware the vaccination had such a long dormant period...Quote:
Originally Posted by Nerkahia
Well, apparently that's because you're trapped in the whole "the Earth is a globe" conspiracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eremius
C'mon, man. Keep up!
Richard Lewis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nerkahia
If I saw him one one screen, I could recite everything else he was in without fail.
It wasn't until he died that I could remember his name.
I'll never forget it, now.
Rooster teeth
https://variety.com/2024/digital/new...ry-1235931953/
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Paul Alexander: ‘Man in the iron lung’ dies after living in tank for 70 years
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A man who lived in an iron lung for seven decades after contracting polio as a child has died.
Paul Alexander, of Dallas in Texas, US, was paralyzed from the neck down after contracting the virus at the age of six in 1952.
According to a GoFundMe page previously set up to help pay for Mr Alexander’s care, he died on Monday.
Fundraising organizer Christopher Ulmer wrote: “Paul, you will be missed but always remembered. Thanks for sharing your story with us.”
Mr Alexander died after being rushed to hospital with Covid, according to reports.
At the age of six, he was taken to hospital after developing polio symptoms and woke up inside a mechanical lung. Mr Alexander, who was given the name “the man with the iron lung”, lived inside it for the rest of his life.
The iron lung acted as a diaphragm to help Alexander breathe after a doctor performed a tracheotomy on him to remove the congestion from his lungs following his polio infection.
Because of his polio he was unable to breathe for himself.
He was unable to move or talk inside the metal casing and would often go unwashed because he was unable to communicate with the nurses looking after him.
His father placed a clear plastic stick, flat and about a foot long with a pen attached, which he uses to write and push buttons on devices such as mobile phones.
Alexander was one of many children placed inside iron lungs during an outbreak of polio in the US during the 1950s.
Later, he learned to breathe by himself and was able to spend short periods of time outside the iron lung and got into university, obtaining a law degree.
He also published his own memoir in April 2020.
“I knew if I was going to do anything with my life, it was going to have to be a mental thing,” he told The Guardian in 2020.
Polio is a serious infection that is now very rare in both the US and UK because of a vaccination program. It is now only found in a few countries and the chance of getting it is very low.
Health officials declared a national incident after the polio virus was identified in sewage samples taken from London between February and May 2022, but no associated cases appeared to have been identified.
There have been no confirmed cases of paralysis due to polio caught in the UK since 1984.
In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, frequent epidemics saw polio become one of the most feared diseases in the world.
A major outbreak in New York City in 1916 killed more than 2,000 people, and the worst recorded US outbreak in 1952 killed over 3,000.
Back in the 80s I watched SCTV all the time, and really enjoyed the entire cast. Sadly, one of them just pasted away, RIP Joe Flaherty.
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Comedian Joe Flaherty, a founding member of the Canadian sketch series SCTV, has died at age 82. His daughter Gudrun said Flaherty died Monday following a brief illness, per the AP. Flaherty, who was born in Pittsburgh, spent seven years at The Second City in Chicago before moving north of the border to help establish the theater's Toronto outpost.
He went on to star alongside John Candy and Catherine O'Hara in SCTV, about a fictional TV station known as Second City Television that was stacked with buffoons in front of and behind the cameras. Flaherty's characters included network boss Guy Caballero and the vampiric TV host Count Floyd. He also acted as the dad in Freaks and Geeks. Flaherty maintained deep ties to Toronto, serving as an artist-in-residence at Humber College.
This is what I thought of when the movies made their foray back into 3D:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R3G_beQccA
Infamous white bronco rider OJ Simpson
Nothing trumps being a murderer. That's his legacy, and deservedly so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eremius
But he was one hell of a running back:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTTHmYKFdrQ
Favourite joke from today: "O.J. Simpson has died at the age of 76 from cancer. Cancer has denied being responsible, but plans to write a book titled, 'If I Did It'."
You're not wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by PPatty
"Today is not the day for O.J. Simpson jokes. But I may take a stab at it tomorrow."Quote:
Originally Posted by Delores Mulva
"At least O.J. can rest peacefully knowing his wife's killer is dead."
:grinyes:
A friend sent this to me, so far my favorite:
Attachment 6865
He made it a few more years, but sadly, he's given up the ghost at last:Quote:
Originally Posted by PPatty
https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/othe...th/ar-AA1nfoRC
God bless.
Long Live Theoden
Bernard Hill, 79
He delivered my favorite whip-'em-up movie speech:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mileron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POdknqszMDY
Duane Eddy passed a few days ago :(
You don't get more "twang" than this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=296wS9ome4M
Bye-Bye, B-Movie Boss:
Roger Corman, low-budget filmmaker who launched many careers, dies at 98 (msn.com)
He even made a Marvel movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN0FoR_FlZg
A great basketball player and, love or hate him as an announcer (people on this board seemed to trend toward the latter?), he helped elevate the sport's overall profile:
NBA champion, Hall of Famer Bill Walton dies at 71 - ESPN
I don't watch the NBA anymore, not a fan of the way the game has changed, but when I watched and Walton was announcing I always enjoyed his quirky style. When he was at UCLA I was in junior high and our football coach was a huge fan of his, always using him as an example of how to be an athlete. He will be missed.Quote:
Originally Posted by PPatty
What changes bother you? My buddy watches - I don't - and he did bring up in our last conversation how these playoffs have been really "weird", with teams basically trading blowouts back and forth. Is there a lack of sound defensive play? Is it a "no pushback" kind of thing? Are the changes recent, or is this more of a "for the last decade or so" thing? I know the Raptors won with stifling D, and that was only 5 years ago.
I don't know about Bonlainy, but there have been people who generally don't like the modern NBA's extreme reliance on 3-pointers and refereeing changes that make it harder to play defense. I've reconciled myself to it, but there have been rumblings about those things ever since the Spurs won multiple titles with an offense that incorporated the 3-pointer as a fundamental part of their system (btw, Popovich is one of the 3-haters, but he gave into reality).Quote:
Originally Posted by Delores Mulva
Basically this, although I don't really agree that the Spurs relied on 3-pointers to win their championships, it was simply a part of their arsenal on offense, not their entire offense. Now if a team doesn't have a bevy of 3-point shooters it's hard to win, although not impossible. When the Spurs won the 3-point shot wasn't their main point generator, they had Duncan and all that he did, plus Ginobili driving, Parker dishing, and a strong defense. The scores of games now are much higher, which I concede are more exciting for lots of people, but there is just too much perimeter play for me, it has taken away my enjoyment of the game. I am obviously one of the minority though, the number of viewers seems to keep going up as the shots get longer. Again, this is just how I feel about the NBA now. On the other hand, I do like the changes MLB has made, and although it is still mostly driven by home runs the stolen base has made a comeback in a big way, and that is part of the game I missed.Quote:
Originally Posted by PPatty
It wasn't their whole gameplan, but it was absolutely a key part of it. Just ask Pop himself:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonlainy
Gregg Popovich on the 3-pointer: 'I still hate it, I'll never embrace it' - CBSSports.comQuote:
Originally Posted by CBS Sports
didnt basketball used to lots of 3 pointers until the dunk got really popular and now its come back because lots of people got tired of nothing but dunks?
The NBA adapted the 3-point line in 1979, but college hoops didn't do it until 1986, and the three didn't really take off until this millennium, although I would argue that the first NBA championship team to lean significantly on the three was the 1993-95 Rockets, who won back-to-back titles while leading the league in 3-point attempts -- Houston's offense basically consisted of Hakeem going to the hoop or kicking it out to the perimeter.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilanFyretracker
Leaving out the Houston anomaly, I suspect the three-pointer would have taken off sooner if not for Phil Jackson winning 11 championships with the triangle offense. Still, per-game averages for 3-point attempts rose steadily throughout the 1990s and this century, with the biggest increase in 3-point attempts coming in the 2015-2017 period (thank Golden State for that).
Parnelli Jones, an auto racing legend, dies at 90. He could drive, and win, in anything it seemed. Indy 500, Trans Am, Baja 1000, NASCAR, team owner, he did it all.
https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/n...ones/10619886/
The NBA has lost its logo:
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/j...ion-executive/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhLlGi28jSQ
Willie Mays, 93
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/h...ry-was-93/amp/
I've said before on this board that Mays is one of the two best position players of all time, and I'd still say that now. He's the five-tool god of baseball.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilanFyretracker
Kiefer’s dad did well in a whole lotta roles, some of which he carried above the material:
https://deadline.com/2024/06/donald-...ad-1235978933/
But I'm going to drop in his appearance in the music video for one of the great underrated songs of the '80s:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pllRW9wETzw
Which more people know because of the later song that sampled from it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg9Wqs4vjZM
United States of America, natural causes - 247 years, 362 days old.
Long live the King.
oof.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zarbonius
Natural causes. Why don't i believe that. Is there a toxicology report?
I think too much orange dye was swallowed by too many.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinthalas Tigris
Shelley Duvall, 75, complications from diabetes.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...151701442.html
Orange Dye 45. the FDA should have banned it but sadly, Lobbyists.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonlainy
Nope. Not today, Satan.
He was too busy trying to process Richard Simmons and Dr. Ruth.
Shannen Doherty, 53, cancer.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...122152819.html
Edit: Nevermind, not the right thread for it.
The guy in line in front of me said the wildest thing imagineable:Quote:
Originally Posted by Delores Mulva
"That was the first time, I ever wished a Republican would lean more right."
She was so cute as Brenda in 90210, and also in Mallrats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mileron
Big heart throb of mine growing up. She just didn't go as many places, artistically, as some might have thought, but I know she was very difficult to wok with in some creative places.
James B. Sikking, 90, dementia.
https://deadline.com/2024/07/james-b...or-1236010148/
(Doogie Howser's dad, Star Trek III's Captain Styles of the USS Excelsior, others)
Bob Newhart, 94
https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/bob...an-1236077300/
I loved his dry sense of humor from the first time I saw Newhart
And now reports are emerging of the death of Lou Dobbs, who had been a respectable, maybe even formidable, business journalist before he decided that the world needed to know his opinions:
https://nypost.com/2024/07/18/us-new...it-dead-at-78/
Same here, his delivery and manner were great. I remember when I was a kid a friend across the street who was a few years older than me had a Bob Newhart album, and I remember laughing hard at the part where he was a driving instructor. Loved The Bob Newhart Show and Newhart (well, I could have done with our Michael and Stephanie). He will be missed greatly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eremius
Chi Chi Rodriguez
I always loved to watch him play when I was young, he seemed to have a joy for the game and never took it too seriously, although he did have a pretty good career.
Old friend of my grandfather's who I thought passed away years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonlainy
They were both touring "mascots" for the military. My grandfather was the very first, with the Army Air Force, and then the Air Force, and they picked up Rodriguez due to his eccentricities. My grandfather loved playing with him, and while I never got to meet him, my grandfather, after having his life debilitating stroke in his late 70s in the 1990s, would be visited by him on occasion and who would bring him cheeseburgers.
Tremendous individual - but god damn, that article you linked SUCKS grammatically.
Kevin Sullivan, 80s and 90s wrestling icon dies at 74
Growing up, watching WCW and the prior incarnation, The Dungeon thrilled me and legitimately freaked me out
Straight from the AP, so send them a letter of complaint.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinthalas Tigris
Hugely influential figure in the industry, for better or worse (I would tend toward the latter, overall). Also a key figure in what ultimately became an sad and awful story -- before Benoit killed his wife and her kids, she was Kevin Sullivan's real-life wife and on-screen valet. Sullivan, as others have noted, basically booked his own divorce -- life imitated art, the feud become legit, and they decided to ride that real emotion through a hell of an on-screen feud that culminated in the memorable match that blasted through a bathroom at Great American Bash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninetoes
I would argue the opposite, but I can definitely see how folks feel that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by PPatty
https://www.gamesradar.com/games/the...llis-has-died/
The original voice actor for Misty/Jessie of Pokemon has passed at 46 from cancer.
Perry Kurtz, the kindest man who did comedy. Killed by hit and run driver.
Terrible loss. I'm shocked he was 73. I thought he was in his 50s.
Afa A'noai of the Wild Samoans, dead at 81
Man, not a good year for wrestling icons
81.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninetoes
Are there older wrestling legends?
General legends? Cowboy Bob Ellis, the guy who invented the bulldog move, is still alive and he's 95. WWF? Not in their 80's (I won't count Dory Funk as a WWF wrestler even though he's in their hall of fame), but there's a fair number in their 70's (Ric Flair, Jerry Lawler, "Cowboy" Bob Orton, Bushwhacker Luke), and a few of those even wrestled in their 70's. It's no shock they die early after all the things they put their bodies through, including the steroids. I wonder if this current wrestler is juiced (the two guys are 300 and 350 pounds, the face of the guy in the front row says it all):
https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCirc...ting_wrestler/
It's always a possibility in pro wrestling, but in this case, it would not surprise me if he were clean. He played o-line at an FBS school, so he's not only naturally huge and athletic, but he also had to go through the NCAA's fairly rigorous PED testing. When he tried out for WWE, he did a trap deadlift of 800 lbs, which supposedly is a record for the WWE combine, so he was powerful right from the start.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delores Mulva
I wouldn't use the video in that reddit link as a great example of it, though: He still has to be strong to carry their weight, but he's not really lifting the two guys being slammed; they're grabbing around his neck and swinging into position, so they're supporting themselves before he drops down. If they went dead weight, there's no way that move gets executed. And that's true for many slam or suplex-type moves in pro wrestling -- the person taking the move does most of the work, for practical and safety reasons.
Kane was natural and he was well known for being gentle and able to lift folks - both Big Show and Mark Henry have said they could take a nap when Kane had them up in the air.
Similar to Mark Henry, Big Show and Otis he's natural just massive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delores Mulva
Speaking of naturally massive wrestlers, and wrestlers who were icons: Sid Vicious, 63, cancer:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdxle0vxkyxo
He was naturally tall, but his build (at least when he was in his prime) screams juice to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delores Mulva
Probably not well known to the handful of folks still frequenting this board, but Johnny Hockey was a six-time All-Star and arguably the most high-profile player on his team:
https://www.dispatch.com/story/sport...l/75009208007/